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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-27 03:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #2125 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2125 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-10-27 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't get why everyone find this funny or overly sensitive.

First of all, you don't know what OP's child's age is. What if they are young? How can you expact a 6 year old to decide for themselves what's offensive and what's not?

And OP said that this is a very mild example. I remember that, when I was young, many shows and movies that showed people who were bullied and had hang ups on it to be pathetic losers because they couldn't let go of something so trivial, and the bullies who grew up to feel no regret were justified because that was a long time ago so who cares?

No, that's not right. If I ever had any kids, I wouldn't let them watch anything like that. People kill themselves over those trivial things that happened long ago. So I don't find it very trivial.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-27 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Or...OP (and you, in future) could try, idk, actually talking to the kid about what this thing is and what it means and why it's an issue and teach them some perspective. But that would require effort.
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[personal profile] iggy 2012-10-27 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Really? I'd let my kids watch what they want as long as its age appropriate, and then sit them down and talk to them afterwards about it if there's something in it I find problematic.

Also yeah OP's example was mild, but if they seriously don't let their kids watch Atlantis because of that one line, then yes I think that's hella over-sensitive.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-27 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Except their example is freaking Atlantis. Attempted genocide is okay, but the one meant-for-laughs line about bullying is what makes it not age appropriate for kids? OP sounds like they need priorities or need to relax, or both.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-28 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
In absolute fairness, the girl talking is a protagonist. The "attempted genocide" came from the villains.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-28 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
That's true, but if they're assuming their kids can't tell right from wrong, I would think having them in the same movie would be bad enough.
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[personal profile] keire_ke 2012-10-28 11:11 am (UTC)(link)
No, she isn't. She has a change of heart later on, but it's made perfectly clear she in it for the money and up until the genocide she is onboard with the plan.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2012-10-27 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Letting someone, even a child, experience a story you think they're developmentally ready for is not sanctioning that action even if it is put in a positive light.

Your scenario is only bad if you admit the OP is a bad parent who lets the media raise their kid for them.

If you let someone view problematic material it is a learning experience. It is a moment to open up conversation with your child as to why certain actions and behaviors are wrong, why a story is wrong. If you aren't engaging your child like this I feel it leaves them less prepared than those who do.

Of course, these are my opinions on child-raising. They are biased.

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(Anonymous) 2012-10-28 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
Use it as a chance to teach your kid why bullying is wrong and how to handle it if it happens to them. I think there would be a lot less bullying in general if parents taught their kids not only that it's wrong to bully others, but what they should do if someone tries to do it to them.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-28 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
How can you expact a 6 year old to decide for themselves what's offensive and what's not?

Except most of the comments are not saying 'let a small child decide what's offensive', they're saying 'use problematic themes/elements in media as a learning experience'.

That said, I don't recall my brother or I being particularly censored from anything as children (media wise - hello Jaws at age six XD), and we grew up pretty well rounded and versed on 'this is fiction/don't do this at home'.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-28 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
Word. I always feel kind of weird when people talk about censoring thongs from their kids, because that's not how I grew up, and I turned out fine. (Fun fact: when I was 11, I heard the word 'masturbate' in a film I was watching with my parents. I asked them what it meant. My dad turned awkward and was all "You don't need to know". My mom told me to look it up in the dictionary. I did. And guess what? No mental scarring.)

And 6 is actually not that young. By 6, people are going to school. And reading. At that point, they're perfectly capable of discussing things with problematic elements. Trust your kids, guys!

(Anonymous) 2012-10-28 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
censoring thongs from their kids

heheh...idk anon, I can understand if parents don't want their young children to see someone's thong clad ass...

(Anonymous) 2012-10-28 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Well, I do understand that I guess - only they're going to be exposed to it sooner or later anyways. Like I've watches a whole class of 8/9 year olds request Soulja Boy. Which...yeah. And my friend's 9 year old sister apparently likes Katy Perry's song "Peacock".

But I do understand people's desire to screen sex/violence related things. I think in my last comment I kind of got mixed up between the two things "people who aren't sheltered don't grow up weird and messed up" and "kids are able to understand some issues better than you think". The latter is what I meant to convey in regards to this secret. Sorry for confusing things!

(Anonymous) 2012-10-28 08:37 am (UTC)(link)
You aren't supposed to learn about life from tv and movies! Skipping some flick is hardly missing out. Watching movies means only sitting on your arse. I'd love to spend my time like that, but parenting requires more.

You can be critical about entertainment since it can be used for propaganda, entertainment can also improve life by uplifting spirits, but I'm happy for OP if they and their child don't behave like seeing everything was necessity.
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[personal profile] otakugal15 2012-10-28 06:24 pm (UTC)(link)
That isn't what everyone is saying. NO ONE is saying let tv teach their kids. What they are saying is, if their child IS watching a movie or tv show, watch with them, and when a moment or a line or something comes up that is problematic, save that for after the movie/tv show and then explain to them why that is wrong.