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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-27 03:37 pm

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(Anonymous) 2012-10-27 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Am I the only one who thinks the bullying has become the new national hysteria?

(Anonymous) 2012-10-27 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
No, but I'm glad it's getting more attention. With all the new stories coming out fairly frequently about kids killing themselves due to being bullied (most recently, I remember hearing about a 14 year old girl who slept with some boys in her school and threw herself in front of a train because everyone kept calling her a slut), I hope the increasing campaigning against bullying will finally pressure some schools into actually fucking enforcing their anti-bullying policies (I remember reading an article not to long ago about a school district that had like five or so kids commit suicide because they were relentlessly bullied for being gay and no one at the school did shit. Like, they were literally bullied right in front of teachers and they did nothing. I think one of the teachers even joined in at one point)

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(Anonymous) 2012-10-28 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
And this is a bad thing why?

"Oh, kids will be kids" has been trivializing bullying for ages. Now people are finally waking up to the reality of what real bullying can do to kids. It's awful that it was a rash of suicides that brought this to national attention, but it's a start. Now people won't dismiss real problems so easily.

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(Anonymous) 2012-10-27 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
...you didn't rent your kid the Atlantis movie because of that one joke?

You know that you can let your child watch good movies with problematic elements and explain to them why those things are bad while still letting them enjoy the film right? I mean, a lot of children's movies have little things in them that are fucked up
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[personal profile] brightblueink 2012-10-27 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I was wondering about that myself. If you nix every single piece of media that has one throwaway moment in it that you find objectionable...how much is there that'll be left?

But on the other hand, it's the OP's kid, and they know what's best for their kids more than we do.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-28 01:27 pm (UTC)(link)
That would require someone to actually parent their child.
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[personal profile] dragonimp 2012-10-27 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Um... might a better approach be to rent the movie and then talk to your kid about why you don't like the joke/bullying is wrong?

(Anonymous) 2012-10-27 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
ikr? one line should stop them from showing their kid atlantis, just use it as a time to teach your kid something

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(Anonymous) 2012-10-27 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree.
People can't shield their kids forever. Sooner or later they will come across a joke about bullying and then what? It's better to discuss such topics than to avoid them.

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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2012-10-27 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree. This is what my parents did. I learned more that way. I grew.
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[identity profile] sensualcoco.livejournal.com 2012-10-27 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, other words they'll start hearing the jokes in school where everyone is laughing and or giving a silent approval and you won't have any influence over the situation.
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[personal profile] kikkyo 2012-10-28 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
This, completely.

I mean, otherwise they're going to know nothing about bullying and be left to come to their own conclusions based on what the 'cool' kids at school are doing.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-27 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe you should Harriet the Spy, which will teach your child that when they're bullied, get the lowest revenge on them you can possibly get away with.

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[personal profile] morieris 2012-10-27 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
That was also a really awkwardly plotted movie, but that's not the point here...are you avoiding all mention of bullying to your kid? Like what it is, how it's wrong, ect

(Anonymous) 2012-10-27 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
so are you one of those people who also refuse to let their children watch movies like the Little Mermaid, Snow White, Beauty and the Beast, Cinderella and etc because they are "anti-feminist and send the wrong message"?

I mean, you could always just be reasonable and have a talk with your child about why certain things portrayed in movies aren't meant to be emulated in real life but whatever. Good luck finding movies that are completely and totally non-offensive. Check out some Veggie Tales or something

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(Anonymous) 2012-10-27 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow. Do you social justice obsessed "everything everywhere is problematic" types actually ever consider, y'know, letting your kids make their own minds up whether something is worth getting offended by or not? Jesus.

This is why the entertainment industry is going down the toilet.

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[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2012-10-27 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh. My. God. Thank you for the laugh.

If this is for real does this mean you rent them and watch them yourself first? Is bullying the only no-go?

(Anonymous) 2012-10-27 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't get why everyone find this funny or overly sensitive.

First of all, you don't know what OP's child's age is. What if they are young? How can you expact a 6 year old to decide for themselves what's offensive and what's not?

And OP said that this is a very mild example. I remember that, when I was young, many shows and movies that showed people who were bullied and had hang ups on it to be pathetic losers because they couldn't let go of something so trivial, and the bullies who grew up to feel no regret were justified because that was a long time ago so who cares?

No, that's not right. If I ever had any kids, I wouldn't let them watch anything like that. People kill themselves over those trivial things that happened long ago. So I don't find it very trivial.

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[personal profile] iggy 2012-10-27 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm going to be totally honest- I'm really freakin' glad I'm not your kid. Bullying is a problem, yes, but not letting your kids watch movies because of 'mild' lines like this one is overkill. If you see a problem with it, explain it to the kid after they're done watching the movie.

Barring a kid from watching a movie they want to see because of "I used to take lunch money from kids like you!" (instead of just, you know, talking to them about it if you see the line as a problem) is over-policing parenting at its worst.
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[personal profile] streetcake 2012-10-27 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I never got why they would bring it up in kid's shows like it was an endearing quality either. :\ I never really took away any sort of "pro-bullying" messages from stuff like that when I was a kid though(although that may be because I was bullied myself).

But I think if you teach your kids it's wrong, those things won't effect them. Kids know to a degree the difference between fiction and reality.

If anything, I think to avoid any bullying influences you should have them avoid violent movies. My four-year-old cousin has show more "bullying" behavior as a result of this more than kids movies joking about bullying.

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(Anonymous) 2012-10-27 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Doubt you need to rent them. I wouldn't be surprised if your kid stumbled upon this, or something worse, without your supervision.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-28 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
Teach your kid how, and more importantly, when to throw a decent punch. It worked for me. I never had a bully problem after I left one crumpled on the ground. After that, people came to me with their bully issues, I was able to get most of those resolved without violence.

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(Anonymous) 2012-10-28 10:48 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly, OP, you'd have a better chance at getting what you want [presumably a kid who understands bullying is wrong, and how to handle being bullied/someone else being bullied] by using instances like that as a moment to teach your kid *why* bullying is wrong, and what to do about it. It'll also help prepare you to do that when you kid comes home from school and mentions something that happened that was problematic, because that *will* happen at some point.