[ SECRET POST #2125 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2125 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I think that most people don't like changing around other people in general.

However, there is this thing of people being uncomfortable changing around the opposite gender. I always wondered why that was. I mean, is it a sexual thing? If that's the case, where do gay people fit in to this? I remember in high school there was this one lesbian girl in our gym class and other girls would give her hard time and act like she was perving on them or what-not. There was no out gay guys at my school, but I'm sure as hell if their was, the other guys would be giving him a hard time. I think it's like, if you're attracted to women (male or female) it's like people expect you to perv in the change room (and vice versa if you're a gal/guy attracted to men). That was the attitude at high school anyways.

Funny enough, when I went to university all the bathrooms on res, including showers are co-ed. They're individually stalled, but you still have a bunch of towel-clad people in a room together and just hanging around in general. It's so casual in the dorm. People hang out in bras and boxers in the commons, and no one cares. At my high school, everyone would freaked at the idea.

[inkdust]

I've been trying to figure this out myself. I'm female and bisexual, so theoretically I would consider both men and women to be potentially attractive and attracted to me. But I'm still pretty uncomfortable with sharing a public restroom with men, whereas stick me in a bathroom with a bunch of lesbians and I have no problem. But each gender has the same sexual factor for me. I'm starting to think it's something about same vs different for me, or maybe completely a cultural influence.

[(Anonymous)]

But how do you feel about trans-women? Because they're not men, they're women who may or may not have a penis. Would a woman with an enlarged clitoris bother you?

I'm a pre-op FtM, and I typically use the ladies room due to my more feminine appearance. I've also been known to pop over to the gent's room if the line's shorter. No one freaks out, I use a stall and no one cares even a little. No one even sees my junk. It's kind of win win for everyone.

[inkdust]

It's really a social thing for me, so if someone trans*, whether FtM or MtF, feels like they belong in the women's room, I'm fine with that. Physical parts aren't the issue to me. Of course, I'd be a little thrown off seeing someone who presents more as male, but I've seen plenty of ambiguous-looking people and that doesn't bother me. Like the other anon said, it's heavily linked to cultural conditioning, so the more generic-heterosexual-male-seeming, the less comfortable I am. Still something I'm figuring out.

[tabaqui]

For me (a bisexual woman) - if a trans-woman is using the bathroom, well - unless they've got a beard and mustache, i'm not going to think twice about them being in the women's bathroom, as very few men would voluntarily go into the woman's bathroom (and vice-versa. cooties!!)

So if someone pointed out this woman in the pants-suit or dress or whatever and said 'but they're really a guy!!!' i'd probably give them the glare of death and go about my business. Because a trans-woman isn't going into the women's bathroom to stare at or grope other women, she's going in there to, you know, pee. Or whatever. So who cares from what body part the pee actually emerges from?

[(Anonymous)]

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Also bisexual cis woman here.
In my case there is a very easy explanation for me. Men are "taught" by society to sexualize female bodies way more than women sexualize the male body. Therefore there are panty raids, slut droppings and catcalling and all that wonderful sexual harassment.

I have never in my entire life been catcalled, groped or called "a little slut" by women, gay or not.
But I had most of these experiences with men and therefore I can expose myself in front of other women no prob but get extremely afraid when having to change in front of men.

In my opinion it has nothing to do with sexual attraction per se, but with the fear of getting demonized and sexually objectified just for having a pair of tits.

[inkdust]

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. The societal aspect. That's one of the things that really gets to me.

[(Anonymous)]

I wouldn't be comfortable sharing a locker room with a bunch of guys, but would have no problem sharing a locker room with women who are attracted to women. I am not sure why. Maybe it's an assumption of behavior thing? I know that in college, I lived for two years on floors with males and females, and two years on female-only floors, and the female-only floors had about 90% less drunken, smoke-filled (in smoke-free dorm, RAGE) parties.

[maverickz3r0]

There was no out gay guys at my school, but I'm sure as hell if their was, the other guys would be giving him a hard time.

Yes. Very much so. One of the main reasons I hated gym class in high school. It would've been worse with a larger class at a public school, I know. So much worse.

[(Anonymous)]

It's purely cultural. Check any country with a mixed sauna culture, and they have virtually no issue with nonsexual nudity in front of other people. We're trained to feel uncomfortable with nude bodies from a young age, and it just kind of sticks.

When first using communal showers or changing rooms, people have to work through their hangups of seeing people of their own gender in the nude, the same process would be required to get used to a mixed setting. But society tells us the former is a silly hangup and the latter is valid, so it persists.