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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-27 03:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #2125 ]


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[personal profile] inkdust 2012-10-28 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
I've been trying to figure this out myself. I'm female and bisexual, so theoretically I would consider both men and women to be potentially attractive and attracted to me. But I'm still pretty uncomfortable with sharing a public restroom with men, whereas stick me in a bathroom with a bunch of lesbians and I have no problem. But each gender has the same sexual factor for me. I'm starting to think it's something about same vs different for me, or maybe completely a cultural influence.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-28 09:11 am (UTC)(link)
But how do you feel about trans-women? Because they're not men, they're women who may or may not have a penis. Would a woman with an enlarged clitoris bother you?

I'm a pre-op FtM, and I typically use the ladies room due to my more feminine appearance. I've also been known to pop over to the gent's room if the line's shorter. No one freaks out, I use a stall and no one cares even a little. No one even sees my junk. It's kind of win win for everyone.
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[personal profile] inkdust 2012-10-28 02:52 pm (UTC)(link)
It's really a social thing for me, so if someone trans*, whether FtM or MtF, feels like they belong in the women's room, I'm fine with that. Physical parts aren't the issue to me. Of course, I'd be a little thrown off seeing someone who presents more as male, but I've seen plenty of ambiguous-looking people and that doesn't bother me. Like the other anon said, it's heavily linked to cultural conditioning, so the more generic-heterosexual-male-seeming, the less comfortable I am. Still something I'm figuring out.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2012-10-28 04:22 pm (UTC)(link)
For me (a bisexual woman) - if a trans-woman is using the bathroom, well - unless they've got a beard and mustache, i'm not going to think twice about them being in the women's bathroom, as very few men would voluntarily go into the woman's bathroom (and vice-versa. cooties!!)

So if someone pointed out this woman in the pants-suit or dress or whatever and said 'but they're really a guy!!!' i'd probably give them the glare of death and go about my business. Because a trans-woman isn't going into the women's bathroom to stare at or grope other women, she's going in there to, you know, pee. Or whatever. So who cares from what body part the pee actually emerges from?

(Anonymous) 2012-10-28 02:21 pm (UTC)(link)
NA

Also bisexual cis woman here.
In my case there is a very easy explanation for me. Men are "taught" by society to sexualize female bodies way more than women sexualize the male body. Therefore there are panty raids, slut droppings and catcalling and all that wonderful sexual harassment.

I have never in my entire life been catcalled, groped or called "a little slut" by women, gay or not.
But I had most of these experiences with men and therefore I can expose myself in front of other women no prob but get extremely afraid when having to change in front of men.

In my opinion it has nothing to do with sexual attraction per se, but with the fear of getting demonized and sexually objectified just for having a pair of tits.
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[personal profile] inkdust 2012-10-28 02:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. The societal aspect. That's one of the things that really gets to me.