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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-11-04 03:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #2133 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2133 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 083 secrets from Secret Submission Post #305.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - posted twice ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-04 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
who else thinks 14 and 15 are the same person?
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[personal profile] author_by_night 2012-11-04 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll give them credit and suggest they decided to edit it and assumed the original just wouldn't be posted.
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[personal profile] elaminator 2012-11-04 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
So...are these two actually together or BFF's or what?

(Anonymous) 2012-11-04 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
The guy with the red pointy thing on his head got the yellow guy to do some pretty skeevy things during the war, and the guy on the bottom left keeps the yellow guy from eating his gun over it. That is as close as "together" as this flavor of giant robots gets.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-04 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Bottom right, sorry.
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[personal profile] elaminator 2012-11-04 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, I gotcha. Why does this remind me of Roy/Hughes from FMA...

Either way, they seem sorta codependent? IDK if I'm interpreting that correctly, but they sound interesting.
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[personal profile] caeliluminar 2012-11-04 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
"Codependent" is exactly how I'd characterise it. I can't decide whether it's cute or unsettling, especially when there's foreshadowing that Chromedome (the yellow robot) is "being used" by someone or something.
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[personal profile] elaminator 2012-11-04 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Well...the 'being used' part sounds creepy as all hell, but I've got to admit that codependent couples intrigue me. Sometimes I do find them cute, then something happens and I'm reminded of how unsettling and unhealthy it is. So both are possible imo, lol.
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[personal profile] caeliluminar 2012-11-04 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
And the writer is kind of evil. Amazing, but evil.

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(Anonymous) 2012-11-04 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't figure out what's secret about this one. I'm not sure what's going on, period, but -- are you saying you've been vocal of your disapproval of A/B shippers, and you were not expecting A/B to get some canonicity? If everyone knows you disapprove, how is the lack of expectation a secret? At least 14 is more obviously some sort of secret, with FUCK THIS scrawled on it, but... I don't know, it's very confusing.

OP :(

(Anonymous) 2012-11-04 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Not the same person as 14 up there (I'm worried about Prowl with this revelation! I don't WANT a Eugenesis callback). And I was only resistant to it because I imagined it would never, ever happen and it annoyed me that fangirls would make shit up.

But they were right.

So now I don't know what to do.

Re: OP :(

(Anonymous) 2012-11-04 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't see the problem. You don't have to ship it if you don't want to.

Besides, it's still not explicit in canon. Sure, they have a clear relationship, but it can still be interpreted as a very strong friendship without anything romantic or whatever.

I ship it like burning, but I don't see any absolute confirmation of that in canon. And frankly, I'd rather there wasn't any. I'd like to keep the shipping in fandom, and the hints without anything concrete to back them up in canon.
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2012-11-05 10:48 am (UTC)(link)
I ship it like burning, but I don't see any absolute confirmation of that in canon.

(I'm not sure if you're talking about C/R or C/P here, but I'm talking about C/R.)

Agreed. The hints are getting stronger - when I first started 'shipping them with their conversation before Tailgate's branding ceremony, I thought I was reading into it, then every issue since has made me wonder if Roberts is really going there - but, yeah, it's still all hints and subtext, and could totally be read as a romantic friendship.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2012-11-04 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Can someone explain to me WTF is going on and who the characters are and what the context is and why it's so terrible that two different OP's in the same comm sent similar secrets at the same time?

/I love reading fandom anger about works I'm unfamiliar with. Don't know why. I just loooooooooooove it.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-05 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Transformers is known for shipping wank, is the most important thing. But unlike ship wars in other fandoms, TF wank is about whether you're even ALLOWED to ship TFs.

There are three characters there:

Chromedome, the orange/yellow robot, who used to be a police offer and is also a mnemosurgeon, which means he can stick his fingers into the heads of other TFs and read their memories. Unfortunately, he's been suffering some bad side effects from the skill recently, including having first-person dreams that don't belong to him.

Rewind, the small black/white bot on the bottom panel: Literally a memory stick, adorable, tiny and snarky. He and Chromedome became friends while Chromedome was "damn near suicidal", in Chromedome's own words, but we don't know the details.

Prowl: Complicated. He's always been by-the-books, and the war ground down on him HARD. He's also pretty much the epitome of believing that the ends justify the means, so someone with Chromedome's skillset would have been damn useful to them.

We knew Chromedome and Prowl used to be partners in the police force before the war. We knew Rewind and Chromedome were very close. We had a scene where Rewind provided emotional support to Chromedome when Chromedome was telling Prowl he was leaving Cybertron, where Prowl is still heading up security. Prowl took it badly.

Needless to say, all of this has created shipping, especially Chromedome/Rewind shipping (they also share quarters, so that helps). This panel was in the newest issue, and everyone freaked out. Some people think it's proof-positive of Chromedome/Rewind, other people think that it's proof of the lesser-loved Chromedome/Prowl. Others are still wondering why Cybertronian relationships have to work like human ones. Regardless of whether we have gay robots, romantic robots, or simply veryvery close friend robots, we definitely have jealous robots.

Why exactly it's unfeasible that two people would have similar reactions in secrets? No clue. Maybe because the TF fanbase that hangs out on FS isn't very big. But otherwise it seems perfectly reasonable to me, and given that the issue with the scene in question came out on Wednesday, and it caused an uproar in fandom, I don't really see how it doesn't make sense for two people to make secrets.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2012-11-05 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you, helpful anon!

I actually meant "why is the scene so terrible that it would cause enough widespread outrage that two different OP's would send secrets about the same thing at the same time". I didn't word that very well, lol. ;) But from what you've said, it doesn't look like it's terrible at all -- it seems it's just people getting butthurt about their headcanons being threatened or their ships being sunk?

(Anonymous) 2012-11-05 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
More....ships being floated rather than sunk. But basically. :D

(Anonymous) 2012-11-05 06:16 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the updates fellow anon!
I don't read the comics atm because there is so much wank going on.
I prefer "coming late to the party" on purpose.

But I was curious what the fuss in this secret was about ^^#

(Anonymous) 2012-11-05 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Basically, both shippers and anti-shippers are being ridiculous about the two robot dudes' epic bromance. The OP of 14 just hates character development.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-05 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
Other replying anon:

Said far more succinctly than I!

And now people are being threatened by the fact that apparently Prowl and Chromedome ALSO had an epic bromance, I think. Bromance triangle GO!
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2012-11-05 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
lol @ bromance triangle :D This reminds me of the SG-1 days where Jack/Daniel shippers were all ~threatened~ by Teal'c. Or maybe that was just in my circle...

OTish

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First fic I ever wrote wax a cute pg-13 Teal'c/Daniel that honestly focused more on worldbuilding Chulak and examining Egyptian culture, etc. than shipping. I was twelve at the time, which was stated in my profile and I ended up getting flamed by a woman with kids my age for writing "bestiality". LOL good times. Fortunately the rest of my SG experience was relatively boring.

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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2012-11-05 11:15 am (UTC)(link)
Nah, I doubt there's much of a triangle going on. I gather by the time Chromedome and Rewind met, Prowl had been broken, and the Prowl that Chrome was friends/partners (be it strictly in the 'job' sense, or the romantic one as well) had been lost to the authoritarian, war-crime-covering-up bigot we know and loathe now. Chromedome might still miss him, which'd probably bother Rewind (though less so now that he and Chromedome are on the Lost Light, whereas Prowl is still back on Cybertron trying desperately to look like the good guy when Starscream is managing to treat most of the population with more respect than him) but I doubt there's any real C/P left in the present.
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(Anonymous) 2012-11-07 01:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Prowl here is very young, he's awkward at interpersonal relations, and he's consciously working on building the logic, cold and professional persona he would become known for later, the same façade that now it's breaking down hard when under pressure in RID (and as a result of Spike's betrayal. No, I don't like that either, but that's how Barber chose to deal with the mess Costa made, and that's his pick). I don't see nothing out of character with how he behaved in the rest of IDW continuity (which is NOT original Eighties G1).