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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-11-04 03:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #2133 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2133 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-11-04 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
You don't have to *like* anyoen, but irrational hate of someone you know nothing about?

Yeah, that's called misogyny. It goes a around with pop starlets.
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[identity profile] cherrycoloured.livejournal.com 2012-11-04 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Not really? People can irrationally hate other people, and as long as they recognize that it's irrational it's fine. Unless their specific reason for disliking her is full of misogyny, I don't see how this is sexist.
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[personal profile] misstwist 2012-11-04 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
This word, "misogyny," I do not think it means what you think it means.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-05 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
na

But just to be fair, in case of female pop starlets it IS mostly misogyny.
They get very harshly judged on looks and their sexual life a.k.a. their "sluttiness".

The only time male pop singers get such hate is when they've beaten up their girlfriend or raped someone. And even then they are easily forgiven because: "Isn't he dreamy? I don't believe he could ever do something like this".

(Anonymous) 2012-11-05 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
Justin Bieber?

(Anonymous) 2012-11-05 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Justin Bieber gets hate for being "a woman" or "a lesbian" or just plain "gay".
People try to degrade him with that because they hate his music or because he is a feminine looking young man.

But have you ever heard someone seriously accusing him of being a "slut"? When they do they just want to imply that he is a woman.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-05 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
The hate directed at Justin Bieber is exactly as you describe it and gives no evidence at all of a more egalitarian society -- but it is not due to his having beat up his girlfriend or having raped someone.
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[personal profile] misstwist 2012-11-05 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
But none of what you wrote about was in OP's secret. You are projecting and make a lot of assumptions.

Specifically regarding Lana Del Rey, she exhibits significant internalized misogyny in her music and videos. The same misogyny that you are railing against.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-05 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
If I irrationally hate a man, is it then still somehow misogyny?

(Anonymous) 2012-11-05 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
sa

Of course not--unless it's because they're "girly" (which is a lot of what goes on with Beiber.)

But really, how often do people talk about male singers and stars half as badly as they do males? At least in the same highly personal way that's related to their face or their voice and not their actions?

It just. Doesn't. Happen.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-05 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
I know I'm harsher toward female celebrities. That's because, in a sense, they represent me, also female, and I'm bothered when they do so in a way that I don't want to be associated with.