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Re: Exhaustion 2012

[with-rainfall.livejournal.com]

Wait... what? What does the state you live in have to do with how you vote? O.o Or are there state elections in the US rn as well as federal?

Re: Exhaustion 2012

[caecilia]

hopefully this helps: http://youtu.be/ok_VQ8I7g6I

I was trying to find an entertaining song about it but they all kinda suck

Re: Exhaustion 2012

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, that does help. We don't care about states unless it's a state election,(Aus) which is why I was so confused.

Re: Exhaustion 2012

[caecilia]

It's sort of a state election as well, most of use are voting for governor and senators and a whole bunch of other stuff at the same time, but mostly it's the electoral college.

Trust me, it's confusing for us as well.

Re: Exhaustion 2012

[brightblueink]

Yeah, long story short, since Colorado (where I live) is split between Democrats and Republican, votes "matter" here more than they would in...say...California (which is very Democrat) or Texas (which is very Republican) due to the electoral college.

It doesn't make much since to Americans, either.

Re: Exhaustion 2012

[with-rainfall.livejournal.com]

Ohhh. This video made it clearer. You guys count your votes by state.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok_VQ8I7g6I

So, is it sort of like... the candidates in those "swinging" states have to campaign more because their campaign is more likely to influence people's votes, whereas in non-swinging states they sort of try but tend to go, "Yeah, whatever, we're not likely to win in this state anyway"? Makes a bit more sense now.

Here (Aust) afaik they count every single person's vote across the whole country. So if you have, I don't know, 8 million people voting for the ALP, 10 million for the Coalition, and the rest for Greens/Independents/writing something stupid on their ballot card so their vote doesn't count, then the Coalition wins. In a federal election, the state or territory you live in is immaterial.

Re: Exhaustion 2012

[brightblueink]

Yep, that's about right! A lot of people have been talking about going more with the popular vote, like Australia, but I'm not sure if that's likely to happen any time soon. Either way it means candidates for President that aren't in the two main parties are pretty much screwed.

Re: Exhaustion 2012

[(Anonymous)]

I'll never forget the territory election in canberra a few years back where everyone thought labour would win, only for the greens to win. It was hilarious watching both labours and liberals suddenly be all "hey greens we're BFFs pls be my friend mutual follow help"

...then gay marriage was put forward, the ACT approved it and...Rudd stepped in and took it away. oh made myself sad.

Everytime a state/territory puts it forward and people vote yes, word comes down from on high to go "no" :(

Re: Exhaustion 2012

[with-rainfall.livejournal.com]

D: Yeah, there've been bills back and forth in various states (idk, I don't keep track of all these political maneouvres, but I'm waiting for the big bold headline that says 'GAY MARRIAGE APPROVED NATIONWIDE').

Re: Exhaustion 2012

[(Anonymous)]

It's because of the electoral college thingy. All states have a certain number of "electoral votes" based on population. Who wins the election is based not on who gets the straight-up majority of individual votes cast, but on the majority of electoral votes.

In all but two states, all of a state's electoral votes go to the candidate who wins the state-wide popular vote, i.e. "winner take all."

So one or more "swing states" - those where voters appear to be evenly split between parties, could wind up deciding the election because a win by a narrow margin in one state means ALL of that state's electoral votes go towards one candidate.

That's why a vote in a swing state is considered to "matter" more than in a state that usually votes with a clear majority one way or the other, and why candidates pour so much energy into campaigning in swing states and trying to appeal to undecided voters.