[ SECRET POST #2135 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2135 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[fscom]

15. http://imgur.com/SN4Sm.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

I don't understand how wild people are for that fic.

What I've read of it's very good, don't get me wrong. (I gave up when Starscream hit Steve and Steve was OK with it. I assume Starscream is copying Megatron because he's emotionally unhealthy, but something about Steve's reaction just turned me off the whole fic. Sad, because up to then, I liked it.)

But the way people act like it's the most amazing thing, I don't get at all. Even the parts I found fantastic, I didn't think were the best stuff I'd ever read.

I sometimes really wonder what exactly makes a fic catch on. There's so much fabulously written stuff, and so often I wonder: why this, rather than this?

[(Anonymous)]

This. It's an entertaining read but definitely not the best written thing evar. There were nuances that spoke to excellent storytelling, but the author has a tendency to not pull through with them. It's not my favorite fic in the whole wide world, but it's entertaining. But I'm with you. Why did this thing get 500+ comments in the span of about a year when much better written fics go five or more years before they breach 100?

[kamino_neko]

Not read the 'fic at all, but judging by the art Steve is a Vehicon, who are apparently conditioned to put up with all kinds of abuse. (See the recent episode where Megatron tossed a car-type off the ship, and Megs was the only one who cared. And that was entirely because a plummeting car can't really give chase.)

So, Steve being OK with getting smacked around by a superior, even one he's screwing, kind of makes sense.

[(Anonymous)]

I understood that. I just think that it has really unfortunate implications that the ficthor probably doesn't intend. Because of the inconsistency where we're supposed to see Megatron's smacking Starscream around as evil and bad and sick and wrong, but Starscream's smacking of Steve as excusable. To me, it has a strong whiff of "forgive abusive people if they were abused themselves" in it. And I'm uncomfortable with that.

I mean, I do think there's something to Gilligan's "violence as contagion" theory, don't get me wrong. But I also think the idea that abusers have no responsibility if someone did it to them is... well, one of the things that keeps real people in DV situations. "I have to forgive him and have compassion for him because of what his daddy did" type stuff.

It probably wouldn't make me as uncomfortable if violence from Megatron and violence from Starscream weren't treated so differently. It's like "it's a sad forgivable little quirk if the protagonist does it, but it's horrible if the villain does it." If both Megatron's and Starscream's violence were minimized or treated as everyday, I think i'd have an easier time of it. I'd know I was in Fictionland, where beating someone doesn't mean abuse. But instead I'm in Inconsistentfictionland, and that makes it hard to get my bearings, if that makes any sense.

I don't know. It probably wasn't even thought through much by the ficthor herself. But it gave me a funny oogy feeling and made me uncomfortable.

[kamino_neko]

Well, like I said, I haven't read it, so I'll have to take your word for it that it treats Megatron and Starscream's violence differently, in which case, I agree it's unfortunate.

[(Anonymous)]

Eh. I'm not saying it's terrible. Just that it strikes me as "it's less bad when the pretty one does it." I think fans tend to leather -pants Starscream because he's woobieable, whereas Megatron really isn't.

Kind of like what some Avengers fans do with Loki. It's not personally my bag at all, but many fangirls love their woobies. YMMV.

[hwc]

Are those robots sweating? Or are they in the rain or what? I'd also ask how they're having sex, but IIRC that's a source of wank in the fandom? I might be wrong, all I know about Transformers I learned from F!S and FFR.

[elaminator]

I think it's rain, because it looks like the ground is wet too. TBH my first thought was, "This is unexpectedly hot...but how do they have sex?" I imagine there are multiple accepted fan theories explaining this.

[(Anonymous)]

They're in what basically amounts to a communal shower.

[(Anonymous)]

They're actually in the shower. It's sad that I know this.

[(Anonymous)]

..w-what fic is this because there was this one fic on the kink meme that was absolutely hilarious but I got too lazy to track that giant wankfest

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't read the fic in question, but I've been in similar position plenty of times in different fandoms. It's easy to see when the writer has lost all interest in the fic/fandom, and it sometimes feels better when they just abandon it, instead of writing some halfhearted and ultimately disappointing final chapter where the other main character gets hit on the head with a falling piano.

[(Anonymous)]

Kind of ashamed that I know this but...

It's finished in the Knockout/Soundwave fic she wrote. They're in the same universe, and basically the last couple chapters cross back over with this story and you can see the ending.

[(Anonymous)]

OP here. As I said in the image, I already read that. It didn't provide much more closure than this did since it WAS focused on Soundwave and Knock Out, not Steve and Starscream.