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Dear crazy Republicans: You can not live off of welfare. It is such a small sum of money that it is impossible to pay rent+bills with it. Take your heads out of your ass and realize a lot of people on welfare/foodstamps WORK for a living.

Yeah I'm always confused by people claiming they're going to quit their job and live on welfare because Obama! Honestly, I want them to go and do that and see, it's not luxury living. It's barely living if all you have coming in is welfare. Jeebus.

+100000 I actually wish that a requirement to hold office is living off of welfare, and only welfare, for a few months. They'd have to go through the application process with next to nothing to live off of until they were approved. Then they could only spend food stamps, and live somewhere they could afford on welfare. That way maybe politians would stop encouraging the idea that welfare is easy to get/easy to live on. It would hopefully also give them better insight into the difficulties of being that poor.

Wouldn't their family also suffer? That doesn't seem fair (unless you mean that they would be isolated and forced to do it alone). Or what if they have life saving medication they need to pay for? It doesn't seem right to literally endanger someone's life to teach them a lesson

or maybe you weren't actually being serious and I'll just be quiet

Heck, just going through the application process is harrowing.

Relocate them to rural areas where agencies are located in one part of the county that might be miles and miles from them and take away their transportation and see how they navigate that.

I'm with you there. The application process is harsh. And trying to get to the appointments can be impossible. And even then if you're on the version of welfare that helps with money, CalWorks, you can only remain on it for a certain number of months months in a row and then you have to be off for quite a while, I think it's 24 months. With a lifetime total of 60 months (I'm sure of that). It's not possible to be on it forever if there isn't a daaaaaaaaamn good reason. And that reason must be proved repeatedly and will be constantly challenged.

And to keep it? A one-parent family, the parent must work at least 32 hours weekly either at a job, vocational training or community service work to receive benefits. Two parents must work a total of 35 hours weekly. And they want to see proof of you applying for work. In my community this has lead to a lot of people having to apply for work at places they aren't qualified to work at, and applying every other month (sometimes every month) at businesses that keep applications on record. These businesses have gotten so annoyed that they've flat out said they won't hire people who apply that often because they're wasting the companies time by coming in that frequently. It's a pretty sad cycle.

And now I'm rambling on, I shouldn't start posting on this subject this late/early. I have strong feelings here.

I am just nodding along and nodding along at what you're saying here.

It is very hard to apply for and to keep these kinds of benefits, and they're not enough to live on. They're not intended to be. They're intended to be supplemental.

Welfare fraud does exist, but it generally occurs on the administrative side or the store side rather than the individual person side.

How anyone can suggest that people are just clamoring to be on welfare because it's so awesome is beyond me.

I enjoy my job, but sometimes I wish I could go on Magical Republican Welfare. It always sounds so much more awesome than real life welfare seems to be. I mean, when you're on Magical Republican Welfare, you can sit at home all day watching reality TV and eating cookies, and you can still buy sweet cars and expensive shoes (and I do love shoes) and all this awesome stuff, and you never have to worry about stretching your budget or feeding your family or finding an affordable place to live. (And if you get sick, just saunter down to the emergency room and they'll totally fix you up for free and then you can go buy yourself a celebratory get-well cake covered in gold flakes with your magic welfare money!) Yes, welfare in Republican land must be amazing indeed.

Oh I'd like to live with that too! I do enjoy both cake and shoes... Oh and shiny holidays, and clothes and electronics and oh all the stuff I could buy with all that amazing money I would get thrown after me, without having to do anything in return!

I had to go on welfare here in Norway not too long ago, because I couldn't find a job, and even if the system we have we get a lot more money, it was not fun at all, and I did not exactly get rich, or afford more than necessities.

(In the end I started working, first trough our welfare system for 30ish£ a day and my rent covered then I got a real job in the same place, so I didn't need their help anymore, and now I'm studying again, still on state money, but student loans, which ever student in Norway is entitled to.)

I'd love that welfare. Or Magical Republican Disability, which is just as good and so easy to get on that all you need is a slight cough and *poof* Magical Republican Disability for life! They'll never re-evaluate your case! They won't have doctors accuse you of faking things that have been wrong for years. It's easy, everyone can do it. Since according to everything they say, most people on Magical Republican Disability are faking it anyway.

And you make as much as you do on Magical Republican Welfare, so it's a life of ease- with added easy access to whatever medications would be fun. You don't have to deal with a ton paperwork just to get the medication your doctors say you need to live/function.

I love cake and shoes too! I want to live in the wonderful land where these exist. We can have shoe parties in our expensive cars. Parties where we'll light all of our extra money on fire just because we can.

Every time I hear about welfare queens I really want to find one and ask them for their secrets.

Sure, I know people who use welfare as a crutch but I can guarantee you they are not living the high life, or the low life. They're living a pretty godawful life treading water and if anything in their life goes wrong they're screwed severely. And usually even then they have to supplement welfare by hitting up relatives at the end of every month to buy food.

And do not even get me started on how people who are solely living off of welfare/disability should get minimum wage jobs that apparently are just handed out like candy. Why the hell would anyone take a minimum wage job that pays less than welfare/SSI once you factor in travel, childcare costs, and other associated expenses? No one is going to screw their family over so some pundit doesn't mock them on the television.

I would also like to preemptively tell anyone who wants to chime in about how everyone on welfare should be living on rice and beans and growing their own food and bootstraps that they are sincerely invited to go fuck themselves.

Edited (too mad to be coherent or type apparently) 2012-11-08 05:00 (UTC)

Seriously, all of this. Also, when in the hell do most people on welfare have time to grow their own food?! Most of them are working their asses off, just trying to stay afloat.

I forgot the part where they claim everyone can afford to buy in bulk to save money and everyone has the kind of transportation/storage space that is conducive to buying in bulk.

And most people in that situation are living in apartments that aren't the kind to come with a garden plot so the best they could do is a windowsill herb garden if they had the time.

I love the disconnect between the people I know who bitch about how lazy all the "moochers" on social assistance are, and yet they've at some point in their lives utilized food stamps, unemployment, social security, and/or medicaid. But, you know, if they're using it, it's NEEDED. If other people use it, obviously they're lazy degenerates bleeding the system dry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTwpBLzxe4U

That's just painful to watch.

Yeah, it's impossible to live independently on welfare without a job, you have to have generous relatives or friends or lovers or be in the shelter system, any situation you don't have to pay rent and utilities. You have to have help coming from somewhere else, always, and you'd better hope welfare doesn't decide you're cruising in the lap of luxury just because you aren't completely fucked yet.

Yeah, I'm on disability right now, and can't even afford an apartment with what I get each month.

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