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Oh dear god, one time I slightly darkened my skin for a costume because I am really, REALLY pale and it would have looked like shit otherwise.
I do think my almost literally white skin looks really fug anyways.

I went to a con in my country and received nothing but good feedback, especially from non-white people.
I was so flattered and proud to hear stuff like: "I mever thought a white girl could pull this off without looking dumb, but you did. Good job!"

Then, a few days later, someone had posted a cosplay group pic to their message board of choice and BAM!
SJWs all over the place, calling me a whore and a nazi and a horrible racist just for putting on foundation that was a few tones darker than my natural pasty skin.

Even when I made an account there to explain myself and appologize in case I had offended anyone, they kept going and threatened to find out where I live.

I'm never ever cosplaying this character again. Even if it's "okay" in my own country I just don't want to get people upset and angry at me.
And I don't want to play her without the fake skin color, because I just can't look at me being so white and cosplaying this char. It looks so off and fugly.

Fuck 'em. You got a good response at the con. You should be whoever you want to be.

The problem is you apologized.

That just got their attention.

it's not even you, it's every other slight they imagine being focused on the target that's there.

If you must make yourself a target, do it like a boss.

Do it again. Let them know their butthurt tears are delicious. And that they accomplished nothing.

I hope you don't let them ruin it for you. You had fun. Go have fun again.

The people who enjoy it are each worth 100 butthurt social justice warriors who'd be angry at you for being white period. Your existence offends them. So enjoy it or make it irrelevant.

This.

I'm sick of our PC culture demanding people apologize for every. little. perceived. slight. Are there real ones? Yes. But the apologies are meaningless if you're demanding everyone say sorry for accidentally kind of maybe but not really thinking incorrectly.

Do the character and if they get pissy again ignore them. There are *real* injustices in this world. Wearing some darker foundation is hardly one of them.

Hey, there's an idea. Can we somehow deploy these people to find sex traffickers?

Well, first we'd have to get the traffickers to all wear blackface.

SJW's are completely worthless at addressing any actual problem.

Which tends to worsen the problem.

I think I already asked you but gave a wrong link, and either way:

Want to join

sj_awareness? :)

Edited 2012-11-09 06:02 (UTC)

nayrt

"100 butthurt social justice warriors who'd be angry at you for being white period. Your existence offends them."

Bingo. This is the key to understanding these people. (Not people who genuinely care about social justice, but the ones who are pretty much trolling in the name of self-righteousness. [but then don't admit that what they are doing themselves amounts to trolling, nooo, you are the troll for blah blah blah])

Why did you apologize? Some people like to see themselves as a victim and by saying you are sorry if you offended them you are just feeding that need. Life is too short to give a single fuck about what other people think.

Nowadays I realize that it was a mistake to get in a conversation with them aynways, but at that time I was really worried I had truly offended someone.

I'm usually watching myself not to use words like "retarded" or "gay" (even though I'm gay myself) because I have encountered people IRL who feel very bad when hearing them.
So I thought I better try to apologize in advance just to make sure I didn't have any mean intentions.

But still, this experience was enough for me to drop that particular cosplay (it was Nabooru from Legend of Zelda, btw). She IS a very dark-skinned char, so I can understand people being legit offended by me playing her.

OH GOD. Don;t EVER mention you never intended to offend anyone.

Cause you;ll end up with the SJW's who use "INTENT IS NOT MAGIC!! CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE" and f you apologize more, they only take it as a "faux" apology, no matter HOW sincere you are, will see you as nothing but a monster who should walk on legos off a cliff.

That's happened to me before and fuck it. They'll think what they want regardless and it's best to just ignore it and keep on keeping on.

I have never seen an SJW acknowledge an apology as legitimate. It's always "This is a horrible person forever who should never speak again" no matter what the hell the person says.

That said, I think it's OK that the OP apologized since they're saying someone could have been legitimately offended. But there's no way some people would be mollified, yeah.

Shameless plug-in time!

Wanna come on over to

sj_awareness? :)

Edited 2012-11-09 06:03 (UTC)

I think apologizing was the right thing to do, since there are some people who are legitimately hurt by seeing things like that. Like you, I'm queer and I don't throw around the word "gay" in contexts not-related to sexuality. It doesn't bother me, personally, but I know a lot of people that it does, and I wouldn't want to hurt them by using it. It's easy enough for me to not use it and not risk hurting someone else.

That being said, I do think it's shitty that when some people do mess up and do things without realizing that they can be offensive (whether it's because of culture or just a lack of education about certain issues) and then try to apologize for it that people continue to dogpile them about it. People aren't born knowing everything, and sometimes you do have to make really stupid ass mistakes and get called on them before you can learn better. But writing off anyone who ever screws up or harrassing them after they've apologized and are legitimately sorry is pretty counter-productive. And I know there are some people who like to issue faux-pologies about things, but you can tell the difference between them and someone who's generally sorry for screwing up. Also, I know a lot of people would disagree because ~intent isn't magical~, but intent does make a difference in the amount of slack I'm willing to cut someone for a mistake.

God, I hate the "intent isn't magical" thing. No, intent doesn't mean you didn't cause hurt or offense, but I know I'd sure as hell be a lot more pissed off at someone who purposefully stomped on my foot than one who did it accidentally and apologized, even if my foot hurts either way.

Actually intent is the difference between murder and accidental homicide. One still carries the death penalty in some places (places where some of these SJW are from, as the case may be).

So if intent can be the reason you get to live despite killing someone, how come it doesn't mitigate, even a little, an anonymous offense delivered over the internet?

Is there anything else to the character besides her dark skin? Why is the skin color so central to cosplaying her?

What if OP was cosplaying Anthy? As an example? She'd not LOOK like Anthy without having darker skin. even if she were in teh red dress and all, there'd be people who'd be deriding the cosplay cause she doesn't look enough like her.

It's happened before. It's never a win-win situation with characters that are darker in skin tone.

I've seen the opposite in some places with people of other races cosplaying, say, the Sailor Senshi. :/

Some people take it way too seriously. Last I heard, it was about having fun!

I know right?

There's fighting oppression and then there's just plain ridiculousness. -_-

Apparently white people aren't supposed to cosplay Anthy at all. I learned this courtesy of tumblr.

And according of Tumblr, POC cosplaying "white characters" (that usually are from anime and almost all characters are from Japan) is ok meanwhile white people cosplaying "POC characters" (even if they have light skin) is a big no.

I especially loved when everyone dogpiled the hispanic Korra cosplayer and accused her of brown face, then back pedaled when they found out her ethnicity. And that she was using her normal foundation, but it didn't match her current skin tone because she'd been purposefully avoiding getting her usual tan for another cosplay.

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No see, they will be offended by whatever you do. Odds are good they were 99% white anyway. Odds are good you legit offended nobody who mattered. Even if you've been scared away from the cosplay, remember that before you ever think you actually did something wrong. Other then apologize to those pieces of dogshit.

not ayrt

probably because ayrt expected these people to respond like mature, level-headed people

to be fair, it's a very easy mistake to make if you don't know what they are really like

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