[ SECRET POST #2137 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2137 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Israeli settlers are entering the West Bank again (and only evacuated from the Gaza Strip in 2005); these settlements are patently illegal, and have been criticized by U.N., the ICJ, and even the United States, which has been Israel's strongest and most consistent ally. Do you know who forcefully evacuated the settlers from the Gaza Strip in 2005? It was the Israeli military itself, under order from the central government.

It's undeniably true that Palestinian armed forces have targeted these settlers and even committed atrocious acts of violence against children. It's also true that Israel has annually targeted, arrested, and held for years without bail or hope of trial hundreds of Palestinian children. There isn't any side with clean hands in this conflict, but at least we can say that one side has the international support and internal stability necessary to kick-start the conciliation process necessary to develop the two-state solution. That side has not yet done so, and if the Knesset really does become flooded with the far right in upcoming elections, the peace process will move farther out of reach (and violence against innocent Palestinians will likely increase, and thus violence against innocent Israelis will increase, etc., etc.).

What's important overall is that the current situation in Palestine is not conducive to the development of gay rights. Israel is, as I wrote, internally stable and well-supported: civilians can focus on human rights issues beyond that of food and housing, and they have a secure government to back them up. In Palestine, the overall political atmosphere is too chaotic, and most civilians are too concerned with lack of food, lack of housing, and the conflict with Israel to have the time or energy to "preserve your rights."

[(Anonymous)]

So you're basically saying 'Palestinians can kill people and not be criticized for it because their politics are unstable, but Israel can't because it's more stable'? No, I don't agree with that. Palestinians get more aid from the UN than any other people. They don't just attack settlers, which, admittedly are there illegally, but they also attack people who live inside Israel. Unless, of course, you consider the people living in Sderot, Tel Aviv, Kfar Sava and Netanyah 'settlers'. And some Palestinians do.

Palestine, too, gets support from other countries- rich countries, even, like the UAE and Qatar. They have the entire Arab League backing. And you think Israel never tried to initiate any peace process? It had, several times, but you need 2 to Tango. The main issue here is not the settlements, it's not even Hamas. It's Jerusalem. Israel won't give it up. Palestine won't give it up. They both refuse to give it to international control. Until the solution to that is found, they're stuck. That's it.

The state of economy in the West Bank isn't really that bad that their most burning issues are food and housing. They're not the most stable places right now, but many countries aren't stable right now, and I don't think it gives them the excuse to forgo LGTB and women rights.