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this is how i feel. appropriating a holiday reserved for soldiers is skeevy to begin with, but replacing a red poppy with a white one is disgusting to me. i understand wanting to honour civilians lost due to combat as well but doing so on remembrance day by demeaning the actions of lost forces is uncool.

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...holiday?
Not to split hairs, but no meaning of the word holiday applies to Remembrance Day. It's not a national holiday, it's not a festival or holy day, and it's CERTAINLY not time to relax.
If you're going to accuse us of disrespect for wearing the 'wrong' poppies, try using more respectful wording to do it.

it's a holiday. i'm not here to argue semantics as the collective population of fandomsecrets seems so adamant on doing. a holiday is simply a day society has set aside to observe for a given reason. it's not just celebratory occasions. memorial days fall under its scope.

lots of people consider it a holiday not even for its status as a memorial day but also because many locations don't operate as normal on the day (or the friday/monday closest to the day), like schools.

...I don't know how it works in whatever country you're from (Canada?), but here, the services are on the Sunday nearest the date so as not to have to make it a holiday, and on the day itself, life goes on as normal except for a minute's silence at 11:11 AM.

In fairness (as someone else who complained about your use of "holiday") I for one hadn't considered that you're from a different country and it's probably handled differently there. To a British ear, with how it's handled here, it does just sound kind of offensive.

i know how it works, i'm just saying that not every place doesn't treat it as a holiday like they would with anything else recognised to that scale.

i'm not from britain.

That's what I'm saying, that I didn't consider that and that it was my mistake to assume that it was handled the same everywhere it was honoured. I'm admitting I was wrong to jump to conclusions, here, because it may be a holiday elsewhere, and just (because of my experience of Remembrance Day) it struck me as offensive to call it one doesn't mean that my offence-taking was justified.

I didn't think you were from Britain. Hence my guess that you were from Canada, which was the next Commonwealth country to pop into my head which seemed likely to have people awake over the range you've been posting.

i'm not saying it wasn't justified. if you were offended, you were offended. i only offered an explanation so as to rectify what i could.

For what it's worth, it's not really a "holiday" in my part of Canada. Government offices are closed, but schools are not - at least when I was in school we still went on Nov. 11 and when I worked for the government, I got the day off. I'm in neither position at this exact moment in time, so I'm not sure if things have changed. As for services, some at least happen on the 11th, because I've watched them on TV.

That's interesting. The government buildings closing, I mean. AFAIK (which may be wrong, because I don't work for the government), that doesn't happen here.

My guess would be the United States. Veteran's Day for them is on the same day, and it's a holiday across the board down there; it'd also explain why they're assuming appropriation, since the focus there very much is on fallen soldiers. (Memorial Day in the US would be closer to Remembrance Day as observed in the Commonwealth, in terms of ceremony and focus, iirc.)

As for Canada, we do have our official ceremonies the day of, but whether it's considered a holiday or not depends on what part of the country you're looking at. In Ontario, anyone past school age will generally just observe the minute of silence, though there's sort of a tacit agreement that people who've lost loved ones will have the morning off to attend the local memorial ceremony, at least in my city.

That's what I assumed, although they have said they're not confusing them. I don't know much about Memorial Day, though.

I think what you're describing sounds a lot like my experience. Thanks for widening my knowledge a bit. :)

in a uk context, 'holiday' means 'vacation' not 'special day set aside for a purpose' so while I realize it's a dialect issue, it sounds glib to our ears for you to call it that, if that makes any sense

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