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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-11-13 05:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #2142 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2142 ⌋

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Notes:

Sorry it's late!

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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2012-11-14 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't seen this show in years but were these two really that bad? I don't remember them being that horrible... Did I block it all out or something?
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[personal profile] brightblueink 2012-11-14 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly, I don't think Pique is too bad, but Lilie DEFINITELY is. She doesn't start off too horrible, but...as the series goes on, particularly as it goes into the second season, she starts coming off as downright sadistic. For example, she hopes that Femio latches onto Ahiru and chases after her, not because she wants Ahiru to find someone she's happy with but because she knows that nobody (herself included--she has the same horrified reaction as the other girls when he's around)) find Femio attractive, and she thinks it'd be really entertaining to watch Ahiru having to deal with him. When Raven!Mytho tries to seduce Pique to get her heart, Lilie--knowing that Ahiru has a crush on him--spots him and Pique having a secret, obviously romantic-feeling meeting, drags Ahiru to come spy on them with her, and then "accidentally" makes Ahiru tumble right in front of them (by backing up several yards and giving Ahiru a running push) in the hopes of making Pique and Ahiru have a cat fight over Mytho. Later on in the same episode is the only time we ever see Lilie looking depressed--she thinks that Pique and Ahiru must've had a big fight over Mytho, but when they both say they didn't and wouldn't fight over the same boy because they're friends, she yelps in pain and hangs her head with a depressed expression.

In pretty much every episode she's like that to Ahiru and the other characters in some way. She "comforts" people with veiled insults (I'm too lazy to look up exact quotes right now but she tends to say stuff like "It's okay Duck, even though Mytho will never love you because of how awkward and clumsy you are I'll always be there to comfort you!"), hopes that the worst situation is what will happen for her entertainment, etc. she's basically a cute, blond little Drosselmeyer.

Pique's not nearly as bad in comparison, IMO. She does have a bad habit of teasing Ahiru, but she seems to genuinely want to support and help Ahiru too, and she's also the only one that ever calls out Lilie when she's clearly upsetting Ahiru.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2012-11-14 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
Huh, I guess I just interpreted that as "Vitriolic Best Buds" taken to insane levels due to the setting. I mean, they have a teacher that threatens them constantly with marriage. I guess that colored my view of their interactions.

If her behavior was the same in a more realistic setting I would probably side-eye it.

It also probably doesn't help that the type of humor she represents is something I find funny. In fact, such humor, like the backhanded compliments, is a common occurrence in a lot of my friendships. Then again, whenever such comments are made it's always known that we're joking. So maybe I take that assumption too far and apply it to fiction too much.
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[personal profile] brightblueink 2012-11-14 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
Oh don't get me wrong, I think Lilie's HILARIOUS and I love her. But I would never say she's a good friend to Ahiru or someone I'd actually want to know IRL. I think what gets me is Ahiru's reactions to her comments, too--if Ahiru just shrugged it off or laughed, then I'd get a "just joking" vibe to it, but often Ahiru seems to be a little hurt or upset by Lilie's comments (particularly since she's so insecure) and she never really laughs them off, so...if Lilie's joking, I don't know if Ahiru's in on the joke. Even if us, the audience, is.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2012-11-14 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
I would never say she's a good friend to Ahiru or someone I'd actually want to know IRL.
Oh yeah, that's true. I agree.

And yeah, I can get that. I mean, that kind of relationship relies upon the fact that both parties agree to it and both can dish it out. Otherwise it's just bullying. Hence why I haven't done it with people here.
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[personal profile] brightblueink 2012-11-14 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
Haha, I think we're more or less on the same page then.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2012-11-14 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
Yay! As long as it's not this page. Bit too wet for my taste.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-16 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
...See, now I just imagine she's like that, especially with Ahiru, because she wants Ahiru to herself. Run her ragged, then be there to pick her up and Ahiru becomes dependent on her..........
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[personal profile] brightblueink 2012-11-16 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
fffffffffffffffffffffff

I will not write a fanfic based on this idea I will not write a fanfic based on this idea I will not write a fanfic based on this idea I will not write a fanfic based on this idea I will not write a fanfic based on this idea

(Anonymous) 2012-11-16 05:59 pm (UTC)(link)
you WILL write a fanfic based on this idea you WILL write a fanfic based on this idea you WILL write a fanfic based on this idea you WILL write a fanfic based on this idea you WILL write a fanfic based on this idea!

(Anonymous) 2012-11-16 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
That is pretty much exactly what she wants in canon though. XD