[ SECRET POST #2143 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2143 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Ariel Winter/Modern Family]


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03.
[Chrono Crusade]


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[Shezow]


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05.
[Desperate Romantics]


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[Rugby union, Brad Barritt / Mouritz Botha]


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[999/Virtue's Last Reward]


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[Fringe]


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[Homestuck]


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[ASoIaF/Jack White]


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[Revenge]


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[Crash Bandicoot]


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[scarlett johansson/ryan reynolds]


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[Marvel Cinematic Universe, Journey Into Mystery 2011]


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[Tokyo Dogs]


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[Fate/stay night]


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[Inazuma Eleven]


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18.
[Avatar: The Last Airbender]


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19.
[Suits]


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[Once Upon a Time]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 043 secrets from Secret Submission Post #306.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ], [ 1 2 - ships it ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

08. http://i45.tinypic.com/28i59gx.png
[Fringe]

[elaminator]

Eh, you can like a pairing without wanting them to have kids. Kids aren't in the cards for everyone, and the same goes for some fictional characters. If you don't think it works for them, that doesn't make you a horrible person.

[(Anonymous)]

I find it weird because of the time gap and all that. I'm still sad that their daughter is dead now.

[intrigueing]

Not every good couple has to have kids to be valid. Some people make great romantic partners but shitty parents.

[adlanth]

At the end of season 4, I was fine with them having a kid. But considering how that whole storyline has been mangled since... Ugh.

[sabotabby]

I really hate it when a baby shows up because it tends to signal a downfall in storytelling quality. Aged-up Etta was kind of cool but in general I'm "meh" about S5.

It's interesting to see a portrayal of a not-very-maternal mother. But I would have preferred the Nina/Olivia storyline for that.

[kallanda_lee]

Oh yes! The Nina/Olivia thing had potential, but they totally dropped that.

Also, I just generally wanted more Nina. I also though the Nina/Broyles ship was interesting,mostly because it was two older (mature) but different people. But they dropped that too. Oh well :(

[sabotabby]

I liked Nina/Broyles. But I was downright fascinated by the relationship between Nina and Amber!Olivia; I can't remember ever seeing anything like it on TV. So of course it got retconned and Nina vanished.

[kallanda_lee]

There was just way too much (unnecessary) retconning in that show.

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly I initially just didn't like the enormous leap to grown-up Edda to begin with. I liked her as a character just fine and they tried to give her personality so the viewers could get attached to her instead of just depending on SHE'S THEIR DAUGHTER SO SHE'S IMPORTANT TO THESE CHARACTERS YOU ALREADY KNOW AND LOVE, but I don't know. I still feel weird about the idea of people meeting their grown-up daughter and them having to get reacquainted to this person as their daughter instead of a complete stranger.

That said, I do like the emotional issues and friction that stemmed from that and the situation (Peter what the fuck did you do?! Olivia having issues connecting w/ Edda and Peter but trying to grasp on to what she has, Walter's EXTREMELY DEPRESSING FACES AND LITTLE COMMENTS ABOUT EDDA OH GOD NO it wouldn't be a new Fringe season if Walter wasn't breaking my heart) so I did care in the end, but like I said, I do feel a bit weird about the sort-of-forced connection via the viewer.

It was not as bad as some shows have done it (see: Doctor Who - I was initially super glad they actually adressed the inherent issues and resulting emotions with the whole situation in Fringe since I was expecting so very little after DW) but it's still hard to connect with. Especially since we never really got to see Peter and Olivia as parents to a little girl except for in flashbacks, and that's just not really enough to form a connection (for me personally) to their new roles and attachment to this girl, let alone the girl herself.

wow tl;dr sorry

[fenm]

SHE'S THEIR DAUGHTER SO SHE'S IMPORTANT TO THESE CHARACTERS YOU ALREADY KNOW AND LOVE

THIS. I hate when we're introduced to a character and TOLD we should care about the because they're some sort of relation to a major character. We just met them and know nothing about them, but since they're a major character's [fill in the relation], we should care! No, make the effort to MAKE US care about them, okay?
You mention Jenny from DW: Yeah, why should I care about what happened to her? I mean, any more than I would any other one-episode character? Oh right, I don't. At all. In fact, I liked her LESS because of the obvious, blunt "LIKE HER! SHE'S IMPORTANT!" crap they shoved at us.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Honestly I think they did try with Edda and she's had a fair bit of characterisation and importance to the plot apart from being their daughter. Face of the resistance? Willing to cross lines not even Olivia is really comfortable with? I kind of liked it, but yeahhh the show was still relying a bit on her being their daughter. Heck, that was the entire season 4's cliffhanger, wasn't it?

Honestly from DW I was thinking more about River, but Jenny works just as well. Wow I can't actually believe DW did this twice.

[velvet_mace]

They've barely had a chance to be parents. I think they actually got to behave like parents for about 2 minutes in a flashback and that's about it. Then their kid was an adult and while they loved her, it wasn't a parent/child relationship anymore.

It kind of annoys me because basically the relationship was played for cheap angst. What I wouldn't give for a normal parent child relationship that didn't turn the parents into momzilla and daddy-doormat, or do the soap opera time skip from infancy to teen years. So damn rare.

[mfirefly10]

I never particularly wanted them to have kids but I actually had no problem with that storyline because I'm fascinated with time-travel stuff. Parents being almost the same age as (or even older than) their kids is awesome to me.

...BUT...

I'm still bitter they erased bb!Henry and we never got to see alt!Liv deal with that loss.

[dancing_serpent]

They'll get together and have a kid? Hm...maybe I should just stop watching then.

[kallanda_lee]

Watch till to the end of season 4, it's pretty good up to there.