[ SECRET POST #2144 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2144 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 023 secrets from Secret Submission Post #306.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Considering in the game Barret is one of the four date options for Cloud, and Barret is so obviously gay for Cloud, it's just as canon as Cloud/Aeris or Cloud/Tifa. I will never forgive the fandom for ignoring the BEST yaoi couple.

[(Anonymous)]

And overlooking the vast potential of special attachments for Barret's gunarm.

[republicanism]

i mean yeah barret/cloud is underrated but BEST yaoi couple? come on there was a lot of in-game support for cloud/sephiroth

like that one time when sephiroth burned cloud's village to the ground and killed his mom

or that other time when cloud stabbed him in the chest

or that other other time when cloud stabbed him in the chest

or that other other other time when etc. etc. i dont really remember but i am sure it involved so much kissing

[(Anonymous)]

Don't underestimate the appeal of hate!sex.

[(Anonymous)]

Yup. They each want to sheath their swords in the other's body.

[(Anonymous)]

All things considered Sephiroth did it twice and Cloud did it once... :3c

[(Anonymous)]

Well, technically Cloud/Tifa was actually made canon.

(And no, not a shipper.)

[(Anonymous)]

:O WHEN?

[(Anonymous)]

They released a book like the Hyrule Historia, and it listed Cloud and Tifa as being a couple.

Ah, here's the translation of the page I'm talking about. http://thelifestream.net/final-fantasy-vii/6162/translations-from-the-ff-20th-anniversary-ultimania-for-the-one-i-love/

[(Anonymous)]

No, it wasn't.

[(Anonymous)]

Lol only Cloud/Tifa shippers are deluded enough to think Cloud/Tifa is or will ever be canon. Everything said about Tifa has been said about Aeris, all of that koibito crap. And considering the writers would have civil war if they ever did pick, they ALWAYS say it's up to the player.

/fighting the good fight since 97

[republicanism]

reading shipwars that have been happening since '97 is like watching a live birth: both profoundly beautiful and deeply disgusting. either way... this tear in my eye is for you, anonymous

[(Anonymous)]

Square Enix released a compilation book (like Hyrule Historia, but I can't remember the name) of the Final Fantasy games. When it listed the couples, it listed Cloud and Tifa as being in love and together. I believe it also confirms they slept together in FFVII.

No, really, not a shipper. I've never even played the game, nor do I like the FF series.

[(Anonymous)]

Found the link.

http://thelifestream.net/final-fantasy-vii/6162/translations-from-the-ff-20th-anniversary-ultimania-for-the-one-i-love/

I found out about this through TV Tropes, and I knew about the shipping wars just by being on the internet and all. I honestly don't know how one would mistake what this says.

[(Anonymous)]

Actually, the Ultimania and every other "source" that says Cloud and Tifa realized their feelings for each other, additionally says something to the lines of "there are two versions of this scene, if Cloud doesn't have high affection with Tifa he will treat her with apathy." In each "canon" material, including the Ultimania, but it never gets quoted also among the Cloti fans. Here's some of it:

1) Deviation
Two versions of the conversation before the final battle
Prior to the final battle, the contents of the conversation between Cloud and Tifa can change depending on the degree of Tifa's affection. If the
degree of affection is high, the contents of the two's conversation will involve deep subject matter and strong feelings for each other. As well, the sight of the two seen by their companions the next morning will lead to an embarrassing scene for Tifa, and she blushes greatly." ~page 232, Final Fantasy 20th
Anniversary Ultimania

2) Changeable event 3 (before the final battle)
Another event is when the party was dismissed and after everyone left for their own places separately, Cloud and Tifa spent the night together.
At that moment, according to Tifa's affection rating with Cloud, the event of "dialogues exchanged between them from dusk to dawn" and "Tifa's reaction and lines when she found out that everyone might see (or hear) that circumstance" will be different. ~FFVII Dismantled, page 201

3) After stopping Hojo from going amuck, the conversation with Tifa before they rush into the Northern Crater diverges into two conditions, according to Tifa's affection rating with Cloud. When it gets low, the conversation in the scene that they spend the night will be apathetic and ends short. Next morning in the cockpit, Tifa says "Were you listening?" and stamps on tiptoe. On the other hand, when degree gets higher, the conversation of the scene that they spend the night will have strong emotions. Next morning in the cockpit, Tifa will say "Were you watching?" and feels terribly shy. ~page 198, Final
Fantasy VII Ultimania Omega


Since that Ultimania page was wanting to show love in all the games, naturally they pick the high affection version, but also notably picked Aeris for the date scene.

Nomura has said this, though:

"I'd say, [who Cloud likes] is all how you perceive the game. Cloud, as you know, is a very popular character, so I don't want to confirm the answer either way. Since the players have affection towards him, I want to leave it up to the players to decide who Cloud likes."

so definitely he's not going to choose one or the other.

[(Anonymous)]

Everyone knows the real canon ship is Cloud/Yuffie.

[(Anonymous)]

no gurl

[(Anonymous)]

Despite being a yaoi fan, Barret/Cloud is the only gay pair I like in the game, because imo it's got the most basis by far. As said, it's essentially canon, fuck Sephiroth and Zack