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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-11-19 05:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #2148 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2148 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-11-20 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Why does Sansa hate have to be irrational? She's easily my least favorite character of the series, and has been since the first book. I can't even be bothered to read her chapters anymore, because she's so utterly passive. She doesn't DO anything. Things are done TO her. I skim the chapters to see what the DOERS are up to, and move on, if at the end of the chapter, she's still alive.

And her age has nothing to do with her uselessness. Dany is around the same age, and she's raising an army. Arya is younger, realized that things were going to shit around her, and ACTED to remove herself from the situation. Bran is even younger than Arya, and found himself in charge of Winterfell, and when that went to shit, he figured out a way to get himself and Rickon to safety.

To me, Sansa is Fantasy Female Character Stereotype #1: Damsel In Distress. If she fell in a puddle, she'd lay there complaining about being cold and wet until someone else told her to stand up.

I don't get the talk about her character growth and her "arc." What growth? "Marry Joffrey Have Babies" girl becomes Cersei's pawn becomes Tyrion's pawn becomes Sandor Clegane's temporary burden becomes Littlefinger's pawn? As far as I can tell, her arc is still, "Do As You Are Told."

So "irrational" hate? No. Purely rational dislike for me, thanks.
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[personal profile] miarrow 2012-11-20 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Good for you, congrats.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-20 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
Some people like characters because they have complex personalities, rather than because they're action heroes.

Sansa is not a stereotype; she's a . . . I don't think there's a word for it, but she's the old-school stereotype made flesh. She has strengths - her resilience, her intelligence, her compassion, her diplomacy. She has flaws - her passivity (which she has for very good reasons, namely being abused and traumatized), her naivete, her classism. She has a goal - first to become queen, then to return home. She has hobbies and friends and enemies and desires. We see her happy and sad and angry and scared and brave.

It's statistically unusual to see a character with her personality type treated with such depth.
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[personal profile] chanterofelegies 2012-11-20 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
A person who doesn't actually read her chapters is really not fit to be talking about whether she has character growth or not, tbh.
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[personal profile] cloud_riven 2012-11-20 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah. I was kinda pulling a "wat" face as they tried to dissect a character they skipped all the apparent lack of development for.