[ SECRET POST #2148 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2148 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

There's a lot of reasons I love Frasier. Frasier and Niles' wealth was one of them. It was part of the comedy, that sometimes they really got caught up in the material things - like when they became members of this really exclusive spa and found out that there was always a membership level beyond what they had bought so they had to move up to the next level and the next level until they reached the "platinum door" and then the very last door just lead to an alley in the end. Martin and Roz was always there to remind them where they came from, to bring them down from their snobbery.


It's not just about their wealth though.

What I really love about the show is that the older characters weren't treated like cutesy buffoons. Martin and Roz's mom and Cam Winston's mother were professionals - a detective, a D.A., and vet and they maintained their dignity and occasionally knew better than their kids.

Frasier dated age-appropriate women, and instead of being a sex-chasing dog who loved bimbos, he was simply looking for love and kept failing at every relationship because he sabotaged himself. The show took great pains to let the audience know that even though he lived far away, he still maintained relationships with his son and ex-wife. And he was genuinely interested in helping people.

Niles was awesome in his crush on Daphne, but again he was not a pig about it. It showed that he loved his wife and strived to make his marriage work. And then we got to see him struggle to free himself from a marriage where his wife held most of the financial cards. He learned to be independent over the first seven seasons.

And Roz was awesome for two reasons - she was unapologetic about her sex life and she looked like a real woman - curves and a little bit of bulging and actual aging. It was awesome. Daphne was portrayed as a woman who moved to a new country to make a life for herself, and even though she ended up married to Niles, while she worked for Martin and Frasier, everyone was Mr. Crane and she actually was shown DOING her job.

I word-vomited a bit, but there's so many reasons to love this show. When a friend of mine told me she couldn't stand it because it was about pretentious snobs, I was really surprised. They are but the show pokes fun at them for it, so we would know how absurd it all was.

[morieris]

+1

They are but the show pokes fun at them for it, so we would know how absurd it all was.

I don't really remember the name of this episode, but there was one where they poked fun at the fact that there weren't a whole lot of POC on the show (it got slightly better in the later season, this was earlier), and as one...I didn't actually realize that because in almost every other aspect it was pretty real (Though Frasier just talked to more or less the same four people in his life).

My favorite is always Dial M For Martin and They're Playing Our Song.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

My favorites, the ones I keep on my DVR, are Dial M for Martin (hysterical), The Return of Martin Crane, Fathers and Sons, The Ski Lodge, and Voyage of the Damned ("Oh God, do you think she's gonna do the barracuda?"). I like a lot of Martin centric episodes because I really find him very well written, a character that isn't just a foil for his sons but a guy with a history and his own take on things.

And yeah, they could always have used more POC - Cam Winston was an awesome addition to the later seasons for the few episodes he was on - but like you said, there were only really four or five people Frasier talked to all the time. Which they also spotlighted by having the brothers throw dinner parties together and unseen characters finding it WEIRD.

[vicfrankenstein]

The Ski Lodge is brilliant fucking writing and that's usually the episode I whip out when I need to show people Frasier for various reasons. It's a beautiful, tangled mess, and Frasier's speech at the end. OH MAN.

"All the lust coursing through this lodge tonight, all the hormones virtually ricocheting off the walls, and no one... was chasing me?"

[(Anonymous)]

I rarely watched the show, but I remember the one with the spa and that was hysterical. They were all wrapped up in, like, seaweed and hot towels, flopping around in this alley...

[(Anonymous)]

The spa episode never fails to make me laugh at the end, poor Frasier and Niles. Slaves to their own need for exclusivity.

[darkmanifest]

I only watched the show sporadically (when the whole thing was in syndication), but when I did, I enjoyed it for just these reasons.

[hornpile]

+100!!
I don't really have anything to add. I just like frasier and this comment. =D

[lbilover]

I think I love you. :)))) Word to everything you said.

[lovelycudy]

All this is why Frasier is sill my favourite sit-com.