[ SECRET POST #2150 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2150 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

oh

you're talking about white people


i was talking about the actual racism in japan, not mild xenophobia that white people there face

[(Anonymous)]

well the argument would stand for anyone

the koreans and brazilians can also just go home

[(Anonymous)]

lol you're sounding less like someone that actually understands anything to do with racism or privilege and more like someone that's just angry, bitter, and overdefensive, and thinks that racism is just when someone tosses around a racial slur or denies people entry to a business place because of their skin colour.

hopefully you grow out of that stage. it's an embarrassing one to be in.

[oroburos69]

Wait, maybe I'm misinformed, but that actually sounds a lot like racism to me.

Because if that ISN'T racism...what is it?

[(Anonymous)]

okay...

okay.

yes, throwing around racial slurs and denying service to people because of their skin colour is racism. but that's not all that racism is. it's a lot more pervasive and insinuous than just superobvious things like that.

[oroburos69]

Yeah, but it sounds like anon is denying that that is racism, which...uh...yeah. Discriminating on basis of skin color, ethnicity, or culture kinda is racism.

[(Anonymous)]

no. i am that anon. i said "racism is not just those things" not, "those things aren't racist"

[(Anonymous)]

I think you mean insidious... but I also think you're trying to imply that only certain people can experience "real" racism, so your point is invalid whether you know how to use English correctly or not.

[(Anonymous)]

yeah, i meant insidious. my bad.

i don't know what you're trying to say with the rest of your comment, though. i don't see how anything i've said in my comment suggests that only certain people experience racism? - unless you're trying to argue that bc white people can be called racial slurs (sort of, i guess some people think honky and cracker are slurs) and discriminated against for their skin-colour, that means they can experience racism?

i'm still out on that one. i would say they could maybe experience situational racism or w/e but they're not actually experiencing racism on an institutional, day-to-day level, so it's not quite the same thing.

[mekkio]

If they are the minority, yes, they can. All you have to do is look at China to see this. The Han majority systematically discriminates against non-Han ethnic groups in China, such as a Kazakhs, who, many of which you could drop in the middle of Middle America and they could pass for white. And I don't mean name calling, I mean kicking people out of their homes, killing others for being non-Han or banning their culture out right.

And, frankly, China is basically a superpower at this time. The Han majority has the power and therefore, the privilege.

[(Anonymous)]

true

i should have specified, i thought they meant white people in north america could experience racism of that kind, so i was referring to that group.

there are definitely ethnic and racial minority groups in other parts of the world that would probably be classified as white in the north america.

[mekkio]

Yes, but the world is much bigger than North America.

And while, yes, Europeans and their descendents are everywhere, you have to lump them all together in order to make their numbers large. (Thus erasing the individual ethnic groups and cultures.) And even then they barely make #1 with the Han Chinese a close second at a over a billion and Indians next with over a billion.

You can't see the world through the lens of North America and ignore the rest of the world. Because there is power in population numbers. Which is one of the reasons why China is being called a modern superpower. Because of their numbers.

[(Anonymous)]

yes.

i agree with you.

it's just that the tone of the anon was very much of a "but wah wah i was called a cracker once i totes experience racism" persuasion. bc, idk, maybe it didn't come across that way to you, but they definitely did to me

[(Anonymous)]

And thus the OP's point is proven.

[(Anonymous)]

not rly tho?

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, really. Because someone brings up a case of racism in Japan/China and the respondent is all "on, must be some white dude being called a cracker by a POC in America".

[(Anonymous)]

White people (and anyone considered a "foreigner," really) do experience racism on an institutional level in Japan. It's incredibly difficult for them to find housing without a (Japanese) guarantor, they can be refused service at more "traditional" stores, restaurants, and other businesses, and overall they're barred from integrating into Japanese society. The Japanese Supreme Court only ruled in 2008 that denying citizenship to children born out of wedlock to foreign mothers and Japanese fathers was unconstitutional.

Of course, this is nothing compared to what native minorities and Asian "foreigners" face, but I'd still argue that it's definitely part of institutionalized racism.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know, being compared to a slave-driver, when you're definitely not, seems kiiiinda like a slur.

[(Anonymous)]

Racism in Japan is pervasive and insidious, especially when it's directed against Koreans, Chinese, Ainu, and other "Asian" groups. Even the milder racism other ethnic groups experience are part of a larger system.

[visp]

This was on the huge train station TV display last time I was over there.

Mild Xenophobia my ass!

[(Anonymous)]

I have a bad case of diarrhea!