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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-11-21 06:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #2150 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2150 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
neither movies nor comics follow the myths much (for example, all of loki's myth-children have been revealed to not be his children at all in the comics)

but omg fandom loves to bring up everything that happens in the myths and pretend it's comics/movie canon so they can woobify him and it's so fucking annoying augh augh augh

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
which i don't get bc it's not as if the shit that happened to him in the actual comic and mcu canon isn't enough to woobify him if you're so inclined.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
basically

although it depends on the extent to which you woobify him - comics loki especially has a really shitty deal, but it's not like that should exccuse him for all the awful things he does. and most of movie loki's issues are in his head, which makes him sympathetic on several levels but again, doesn't mean the shit he does is okay

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
Hela is still Loki's daughter in the comics.

I'm hit and miss on the movie/myth crossover. I certainly find the idea of exploring it in fic interesting as an AU but I would never ever insist that they're part of the movie canon at all. But I do agree that it would be nice if the myths could be used to do something other than woobify Loki in fandom.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
no she isn't.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-11-22 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
Yes she is. Not in the usual way, but she is.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 05:44 am (UTC)(link)
no, she really isn't. it's explicitly stated. 'loki was never hela's father.'
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-11-22 06:16 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, fine, He's her mother. Happy?

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 06:28 am (UTC)(link)
he's not her parent at all!
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-11-22 06:31 am (UTC)(link)
When a Loki and a Pen get together, they have a baby.

We saw this.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Best comment.
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[personal profile] psi_yamaneko 2012-11-22 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
Hela has been revealed to have

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essentially been created by Loki but not actually his daughter. The reasons are timey-wimey, you know what I'm talking about, people who know what I'm talking about.

Fenris-Wolf and the Midgard Serpent are still his kids, as are a number of others. Most of them died in Ragnarok, though, AFAIK.

He was also married to Sigyn and chained to three rocks under a serpent that dripped venom into his face. So a lot of the things that happened in the myths happened in the comics, too, but through a Marvel filter (and, in some cases, horrible writing). I wouldn't say the comics are accurate to the myths but they do try to tie things in here and there.