[ SECRET POST #2150 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2150 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I thought the term sociopath was also being used for psychopaths now, though? And that psychopaths actually tend to be quite smart, and very good at playing at having normal emotions, and experts at manipulation, and are completely ruthless because they don't actually care about anyone but themselves. Which is why they tend to get ahead in business and shit.

[(Anonymous)]

Quoted from the DSM-IV:


Individuals with an Antisocial Personality Disorder show a lack of concern toward the expectations and rules of society and usually frequently become involved in at least minor violations of the rules of society and the rights of others. A popular term for this type of individual is “sociopath”. Although the diagnosis is limited to those persons over eighteen years of age, it usually involves a history of antisocial behavior before the age of fifteen. The individual often displays a pattern of lying, truancy, delinquency, substance abuse, running away from home and may have difficulty with the law. As an adult, the person often commits acts that are against the law and/or fails to live up to the requirements of a job, financial responsibility, or parenting responsibilities. They tend to have difficulty sustaining a long term marital relationship and frequently are involved in alcohol and drug abuse.

SYMPTOMS

The signs and symptoms include:

Lack of concern regarding society’s rules and expectations.
Repeated violations of the rights of others.
Unlawful behavior.
Lack of regard for the truth
In parents, neglect or abuse of children.
Lack of a steady job. Frequent job changes through quitting and/or being fired
Tendencies toward physical aggression and extreme irritability.

Sociopaths are usually idiots who cannot handle a job even. They are not business executives. You are thinking of Narcissists, who are a lot more sneaky and tactful at hiding their nasty traits.

[(Anonymous)]

Ah, then perhaps the book I was reading about it is out of date.

In which case, my bad.

[(Anonymous)]

Sociopath =/= antisocial personality disorder. IIRC, "sociopath" isn't a clinical term at all (nor is "psychopath").

[(Anonymous)]

A popular term for this type of individual is “sociopath”.

Learn to read before you type.

[(Anonymous)]

Since it is not a clinical term, we return to a dictionary definition, which merely says "extreme antisocial attitudes and behavior and a lack of conscience". It's a lot more vague, and a lot harder to argue that someone doesn't meet the criteria.

[(Anonymous)]

Lol wow, someone is trying to argue with the DSM-IV over something they found on dictionary.com.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

No, look, it's simple.

The word 'sociopath' is not a DSM-IV term. It's a word that is sometimes used to refer to a specific personality disorder that is on the DSM-IV, but it is not an actual clinical term.

Therefore.

It is perfectly valid to use the dictionary definition of sociopath when deciding whether a fictional character is or isn't a sociopath.

Does that make sense?

[(Anonymous)]

Don't want to get involved in this little mess, but if you have the time you should read "The Sociopath Next Door" by Martha Stout, Ph.D. It's actually really good, and it goes into all of this.

But yes, according to Dr. Stout, Sociopaths and those with ASPD are the same thing.

(To other anon involved in this argument): Have you ever actually met a sociopath? If you answered no, then I guess sociopaths aren't as obvious as you seem to think, unless you've met less then 25 people in your life.

[(Anonymous)]

I actually am a sociopath, so.

[(Anonymous)]

da but ur the only sane one in this thread

respect to the high