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I am invested in pointing out sexism in language because it is something that affects me. I don't give a fuck if people don't personally find it offensive - whatever, not everyone has the energy to get offended by the same things as everyone else - but I would really appreciate it if people didn't claim that just because they don't find it offensive that means it's magically not sexist because it fucking is.

Sez you. Where you live. No UK holidays for you, in that case.

The only point you seem to be trying to make anywhere in this thread is "bawww you're wrong because England"

It would probably help make you look like less of a sexist troll if you had something other than that in your material, just saying.

I certainly don't have the time or energy to pretend to be a whole load of different anons, so I'll just assure you that I am not the only person on this thread using the UK (of which England is just one part) as an example of a place where a word holds a different meaning to that which it does in wherever you are from (which is definitely not the US, amirite? Definitely not)

Amazingly enough, people outside of the USA are capable of recognizing and getting angry about sexist words when they come across them! :O

People from Canada, yeah?

your good

Oh, it affect you. Well then, I'll just get on my bike and start spreading the word all across the Isles. Might take me a bit. Someone else will have to notify the applicable Colonies.

Yes, it's so funny that women get mad about sexism. So funny. Haha. Stupid bitches, amirite?

Are you under the mistaken impression that everyone arguing against you is male? I'm not. Go on, tell me how I've internalised misogyny and basically hate myself.

Every woman has internalized misogyny. You and I included.

The fact that you obviously don't realize that just goes to show how incredibly ignorant you are.

Give me one good reason why anyone should take you seriously when your stock response to anyone who disagrees with you is to brand them ignorant? You act you we should be grateful that you have bestowed the contents of your college course upon us.

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(Anonymous) - 2012-11-22 06:00 (UTC) - Expand

(Anonymous) - 2012-11-22 06:44 (UTC) - Expand

(Anonymous) - 2012-11-22 14:29 (UTC) - Expand

So basically, "YOU HATE YOURSELF FOR BEING A WOMAN BECAUSE I SAID SO, AND THIS MAKES YOU FUCKING IGNORANT".

Oh. Okay.

Based on the various writing styles, everyone here but insanenoodly guy is a female. How's that for sexism? Scientific fact that gender can be discerned through writing style. It's also scientific fact that women produce eggs and men produce sperm. OMG God was sexist!!!!

It's also scientific fact that cis women produce eggs and cis men produce sperm.

ftfy

rofl

Society is made up of the sum of its people. Apparently, plenty of people no longer find the word "cunt" sexist. One day maybe nobody will. Your opinion doesn't automatically trump everyone else's. Nobody is saying you're not allowed to find a word sexist, but you're sitting here screaming that everyone else DOES have to find it sexist. Also, nobody is ignoring historical connotations and all that, some people just decide, after taking them into consideration, that the word as they hear it used today isn't sexist.

"Cunt" is definitely used as a sexist term at times, absolutely. But not every use of the word is a sexist use.

Well, if people are using it in a reclamatory way or to refer to their own body part as a descriptor, of course it's not sexist.

But that's not the usage that the people in this thread have been talking about, so...

People in this thread have been using it as an affectionate term for a friend. Because that is what it is to us.

It's an insulting term of endearment. Lots of people use them. People here use 'bitch' the same way - in an affectionate way.

Just because it's a term of endearment doesn't take away the fact that it's also an insult which is an insult because of its connotations regarding female genitalia.

I'd love to continue this because you are hilarious, but I have to get on the tube and go to work. Oops! Can I say tube? Or is that sexist because women have fallopian tubes?

(Anonymous) - 2012-11-22 07:53 (UTC) - Expand

You don't get to determine what people mean when they say a word. You can scream all you want about original context, but as long as the SPECIFIC context in which the word is used isn't sexist, I'm going to go on believing it is not, in that instance, a sexist slur.

If a stranger on the Internet who happens to know I am female, but is angry at me for whatever reason, calls me a bitch, I'm going to assume they're probably being sexist. If a friend who I know and trust calls me a bitch in jest, I'm going to assume they're not being sexist. That isn't a conclusion that would make any sense to me - that's not where those people are coming from. We use it with male and female friends, and the idea of a "female dog" doesn't come to mind when we use it in that context. Both of those things have happened. Only one makes me angry. The other is just NOT A BIG DEAL. You can keep insisting that me and my friends are being overtly sexist when we do that, and I'm going to keep rolling my eyes. Or, you know, you could just accept that not everyone sees it the way you do, and focus on more pressing issues regarding women and sexism.

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you have the right to be offended. you do NOT, on the other hand, have the right to demand that random people on an internet forum stop using a word that you think is sexist just because it offends you. if you don't like it, then you have every right to go somewhere else, but you don't get to tell other people what they are and aren't allowed to do or say unless it isn't legal.