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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-02 03:05 pm

[ SECRET POST #2161 ]


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Re: The J-Word (A Thread That Shall Explode in Wank, Just Watch)

(Anonymous) 2012-12-03 05:54 am (UTC)(link)
see, though, that's not actually true. The concept of modesty is an extremely complex one, and also to a certain extent, dependent on the situation. Furthermore, modesty is also a behavioral thing, not just clothing. There is a spectrum. Saying that I dress modestly does not actually make a value judgement on how you are dressing. I didn't conflate more modest with being "better" at any point.

Though, frankly, since most Western society doesn't value modesty in clothing much at all, I fail to see why this value judgement (had it occurred) would bother you in the first place.

Re: The J-Word (A Thread That Shall Explode in Wank, Just Watch)

(Anonymous) 2012-12-03 06:56 am (UTC)(link)
since most Western society doesn't value modesty in clothing much at all

I don't know where you got that idea. Women in Western society are constantly judged and called all sorts of misogynistic things for their clothing choices -- or even body types, since to some people, simply possessing large breasts makes a woman look "immodest." There's a huge culture of victim-blaming surrounding rape and sexual assault in the West; one of the first things that's brought up is what the victim was wearing.

If modesty is "a behavioral thing" as you say (which I agree with), then saying you dress "modestly" seems off. You don't personally have to say anything that conflates modesty with positive value, since that's already built into the meaning of the word. Do you disagree that saying someone is "modest" is positive, and saying they're "immodest" is negative?