[ SECRET POST #2161 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2161 ⌋

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Comments

Re: The J-Word (A Thread That Shall Explode in Wank, Just Watch)

[(Anonymous)]

For my own part, I don't take issue with how you dress (as long as it's something you freely choose), but with the phrasing. By saying you dress "modestly," your words imply that women who don't dress the way you do are being "immodest." That's passing judgment on other people, even if it's done passively. My clothing choices probably aren't as conservative as yours, but there's nothing "immodest" about the way I dress. So that would be my only complaint. Dress how you like, but don't imply that doing so makes you better (or more "modest") than anyone else.

Re: The J-Word (A Thread That Shall Explode in Wank, Just Watch)

[(Anonymous)]

see, though, that's not actually true. The concept of modesty is an extremely complex one, and also to a certain extent, dependent on the situation. Furthermore, modesty is also a behavioral thing, not just clothing. There is a spectrum. Saying that I dress modestly does not actually make a value judgement on how you are dressing. I didn't conflate more modest with being "better" at any point.

Though, frankly, since most Western society doesn't value modesty in clothing much at all, I fail to see why this value judgement (had it occurred) would bother you in the first place.

Re: The J-Word (A Thread That Shall Explode in Wank, Just Watch)

[(Anonymous)]

since most Western society doesn't value modesty in clothing much at all

I don't know where you got that idea. Women in Western society are constantly judged and called all sorts of misogynistic things for their clothing choices -- or even body types, since to some people, simply possessing large breasts makes a woman look "immodest." There's a huge culture of victim-blaming surrounding rape and sexual assault in the West; one of the first things that's brought up is what the victim was wearing.

If modesty is "a behavioral thing" as you say (which I agree with), then saying you dress "modestly" seems off. You don't personally have to say anything that conflates modesty with positive value, since that's already built into the meaning of the word. Do you disagree that saying someone is "modest" is positive, and saying they're "immodest" is negative?

Re: The J-Word (A Thread That Shall Explode in Wank, Just Watch)

[(Anonymous)]

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actually, I'll add - there are plenty of people who dress more modestly than I do. I am completely unbothered by this, because I feel that I'm quite secure with my state of modesty. Them being more modest doesn't make me immodest. So I really don't see what your issue is.

Re: The J-Word (A Thread That Shall Explode in Wank, Just Watch)

[(Anonymous)]

My issue is that dressing conservatively != being modest. People who dress more conservatively than you aren't necessarily more modest than you, and people who dress less conservatively than you aren't necessarily less modest than you. Because there is a value judgment inherent in the word "modesty."

Re: The J-Word (A Thread That Shall Explode in Wank, Just Watch)

[(Anonymous)]

being immodest is not an insult. and being immodest is a thing people can be, so there is absolutely nothing wrong with differentiating between modest dress and otherwise.