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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-05 05:21 pm

[ SECRET POST #2164 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2164 ⌋

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OP

(Anonymous) 2012-12-05 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
If I felt like I was allowed to whine about how hard my life is publicly, why would I make a secret on an anon meme?

The fact of the matter is that I don't feel safe to say something like 'I appreciate your life is difficult but you shouldn't take it out on me'. I just get to put up with constantly being told I'm not a good person for something I can't help. That seems a little unfair, somehow?
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Re: OP

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-12-05 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Find new people/groups. Liberal use of the block/unsubscribe buttons also helps.

In a pinch, go someplace you know this won't happen.

www.4chan.org

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2012-12-06 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
I love you.

da

(Anonymous) 2012-12-05 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
If people are *actually* telling that you're a bad person for who/what you are, as opposed to because you make everything about you, get angry when people tell you that you're saying something bigoted, (or just you projecting on people who wouldn't mind if you complained occasionally, I know I've done that), then they're overzealous assholes and you should find new friends.

The problem is not with the queer or POC fan community, and it's definitely not with people wanting you to have a little bit of consideration for people who get shit on in 98% of culture. It's with *those guys* that are shaming you. And you need to back the hell out of their fringe SJW space already and let them froth in their own corner.

TBH though, the over-the-top poor-me-martyr phrasing makes me think you're the one who's defensive and overreacting, not them. Or maybe it's both.

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2012-12-06 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
There are plenty of GLTBTQ people who do act like this, though. Every group has douchebags. Just because someone is discriminated against in larger society doesn't mean they aren't or can't be complete dicks to people who share traits with their oppressors.
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Re: da

[personal profile] stainless 2012-12-06 04:48 am (UTC)(link)
+100
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Re: da

[personal profile] fuchsiascreams 2012-12-07 05:52 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with both this and the original comment that it applied to. Don't shit on all POC/queer people because of this; and additionally, it is entirely possible for a person who is oppressed in society to also be a bully and an asshole.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2012-12-06 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
If you're seriously going to people complaining about how they're "taking it out on you" because they want to complain about asshole cis people, then yeah, you kind of deserve to get yelled at.

If you're not an asshole, guess what? They're not talking about you. Nobody is blaming you. You are not the victim here. Not. Everything. Is. About. You.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2012-12-06 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
Not OP

How would you know whether or not people have been nasty to him directly?

Also, if I start shouting about ugly useless queer women or something, would you tell the people who got offended that they shouldn't because it's not about them, personally?

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2012-12-06 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
1) Because I've seen people react this exact way before, and it NEVER went down the way they claimed. White, straight, cis people LOVE to make it about them every time someone complains about oppression, and then they have the nerve to act like victims when they rightfully get told to shut the fuck up.

2) No, because guess what? Queer women are actually oppressed.

Re: WHAT?

(Anonymous) 2012-12-06 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
But it was just about the ugly useless queer women. Not you.

I mean, if you are taking it so personally, maybe you are one of the ugly useless queers.

Gonna have a double standard, gonna be called on it.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2012-12-06 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
I think it'd be awesome if people have been nasty to the OP directly, because the OP is clearly a whining buttmunch.

If you start shouting about ugly useless queer women, it will leave more queer women for the rest of us. Which will be awesome, because you obviously don't deserve any.

(oooh, looky, I have been nasty to you AND the OP! Directly! Two points to me. Neener neener.)

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2012-12-06 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
lol neener neener neener?

...yeaah really doing yourself a favor there.

also....um did you ever consider the fact that this is a SECRET? Implying that the OP doesn't normally go around saying 'pity me' to all their friends. Quite a few people make secrets because they feel like they can't say this normally. I find it more likely that they have just sat back and taken all this until they couldn't stand it anymore-but they don't want to deal with a bunch of people telling them they should die for saying it. Because you know having a bunch of people sending you "oh kill yourself you privileged fuck you have no problems" repeatedly actually does have an effect on one's life.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2012-12-06 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
F!S NEVER considers that the secret is a secret for a reason. It's so basic a concept it's become practically meta.
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Re: OP

[personal profile] fuchsiascreams 2012-12-07 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed. A lot of people act like it is impossible to be bullied or have any type of hardships unless you are queer, trans, ethnic, disabled, or a woman. Like it isn't possible to be bullied or have issues even if you're a white, straight, cis, able-bodied male.

Fact: Minorities do not have a monopoly on being bullied.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2012-12-06 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
You're kind of making up a situation that's going against what the OP directly said: that they're getting blamed for the crimes of homophobic, transphobic people who happen to be straight and cis just because they also happen to be straight and cis.

I can only imagine people who aren't too familiar with many GLBTQ people think that this doesn't happen. It's pretty common for any marginalized minority to have a faction that actively hates the majority and blames the entirety of it for the actions of some.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2012-12-06 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
You need to find a new place to hang-out. I'm a cis heterosexual female with a pretty diverse friendslist who has been whining online publicly about how hard my life is for 11 years and I've never gotten the hate you apparently have. And in the grand scheme of things, my life is only privileged hard, not subsistence hard--just typical boy drama, work drama, advanced academic study drama.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2012-12-06 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
No, no, you're not constantly being told you're "not a good person" because you're a straight cis person -- it's because you act like an asshole. An asshole who's jealous of the sort of supportive community other people find online. People who have a LOT of trouble getting anything like that much support out there in the physical world.

Don't get the kind of appreciation you want from the world at large? Perhaps this is a sign that (1) your life isn't hard and (2) you're acting like an asshole. Which might lead you to conclude that you should (3) get a fucking hobby or something and stop whining.

Nobody's ever told me I'm not a good person for being straight, white, and cisgendered. Because astonishingly enough, people don't generally run around telling you you're not a good person UNLESS YOU'RE NOT ACTING LIKE A GOOD PERSON. Which you're not. Dumbass.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2012-12-06 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
This whole thing just really reeks of paranoia.