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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-05 05:21 pm

[ SECRET POST #2164 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2164 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-12-05 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I realize SJWs suck and can often ruin the fun, but are people seriously telling you these things personally?

In my experience, if you don't bait the SJWs, they don't come at you. If you don't tell anyone you're straight or cis, they won't know.

I realize it's getting harder to be anonymous on the internet, but I also know it's possible to avoid those people because I do it every day.
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[personal profile] cloud_riven 2012-12-06 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Why does op have to hide their sexuality or race? If you feed the trolls, yeah, you're making your own problem. But for having details about themselves known/established? No, dude.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-06 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
I was more thinking alone the lines of, are people seriously hunting OP down because they are straight and cis? Are they bringing this up in arguments? Because otherwise why/how would they know?

I wasn't talking about actively making it a secret, but I'm the type of person to not volunteer information unless asked and I consider my personal life to largely not be fandom's business.

Especially for OP who seems to be annoyed by these sort of discussions? Maybe they are better off leaving their personal life private? You don't HAVE to reveal personal information about yourself in fandom, especially if fandom is your escape.

I think people forget in the social networking age that it's not always a good thing to reveal things about yourself to the public, you never know who's looking at it online.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-12-06 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
I was going to basically say what cloud did, but you do make a good point here. We don't know OP's story, but a lot of people offer a lot of useless information these days.

Sometimes that goes beyond this sort of thing too. Sometimes it's an actual safety concern. Stalkers and whatnot. We could all do being a bit more guarded.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-06 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah I didn't really word my opinion well so I get what Cloud was saying, but I was more coming from a place of wondering why people would even know anything about OP's sexuality in the first place, how/why it was coming up and where the harassment was coming from. We really don't know enough about OP to judge either side, we've all seen extreme SJWs harass others, but we've also all seen the LGBT community make valid points which others may take too personally?

But I also think things like tumblr and facebook are things that you should be very careful about how much information you let other people know. Tumblr if anything proves that people are vindictive and will use anything, literally anything against you.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-06 04:48 am (UTC)(link)
I've found that people usually assume you are privileged, white, cis, straight, and neurotypical unless you're at a site catering specifically to something else. So you can easily get ranted at for being that if you are- and ranted at even if you aren't.
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[personal profile] fuchsiascreams 2012-12-07 06:05 am (UTC)(link)
100% this. In a conversation once on LiveJournal having to do with homosexuality, I remember being told repeatedly to get the fuck out of the conversation and to sit down and shut up simply because I did not start off my comment with a proclamation of my sexuality. I found it incredibly offensive that some straight white college girls were telling me to shut the fuck up about issues that had to do with me and not them simply because I did not volunteer personal information about myself. I don't think you should have to be a card-carrying member of the LGBT club in order to NOT be insulted in a conversation.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-10 08:19 am (UTC)(link)
Holy shit you're still BAWWWING about this with your stupid fucking icon?

(Anonymous) 2012-12-06 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
Sometimes people hide things about themselves so they aren't dismissed, for being Het/CIS/straight...Tumblr kinda does that.

It's weird.
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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2012-12-06 06:43 am (UTC)(link)
Why does op have to hide their sexuality or race?

+1

(Anonymous) 2012-12-06 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
In my experience, if you don't bait the SJWs, they don't come at you. If you don't tell anyone you're straight or cis, they won't know.
Yeah, like you shouldn't say you're a woman on gaming forums, so you won't get harassed! If you tell people on the internet you're a woman, you were asking for trouble!

... um, what?

(Anonymous) 2012-12-06 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
That's not at all the same.

If you want fandom to be your escape, why not keep yourself as anonymous as possible? Why do people need to know anything about you in order for you to discuss the ins and outs of Doctor Who?



(Anonymous) 2012-12-06 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
THIS

Seriously...no one should be told 'just don't tell anyone' like it's shameful or something. Also...if it's a personal blog I figure it's going to come out at some point.


If fandom is a safe space it should be a safe space for all race gender sexuality groups not just the ones who 'deserve it more' If there spreading hateful bigoted things about others they should be called on it. If a person of one gender/race /sexuality should be allowed to vent every now and then about things like grades and annoying customers at work or being regularly told to die for something that's beyond their control , someone else of another shouldn't be called a stupid whiner, etc for doing the same. That's hypocrisy.


(Anonymous) 2012-12-06 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
It's not about it being shameful, it's about other people being creeps and being on guard about what you say and do.

Let's be honest, fandom is not a safe space. Maybe if you are talking about a small locked livejournal community where you know all the members- yeah you could consider that a safe space.

But public venues like tumblr? That is not a safe space. Everyone is on sites like that, including people who you should really stay away from for your own personal safety.

When you say things and post to sites that EVERYONE can see, you have to be prepared for people to say things back. Even if you thought it was something relatively innocent, you really never know.

I just look at it this way- I can't change the nature of the internet, I can't change other people. So I'm better off protecting myself then having the illusion of a "safe space" that doesn't exist.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-06 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
That is not the same fucking thing at all.

One is being harassed because of your gender the other is being called out for doing or saying something bigoted.

Very fucking different.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-06 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
OP did not mention being called out for bigoted actions or words. You added that. In light of what OP DID say, being harassed over your gender is equivalent to being harassed for your sexuality or cisness.
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[personal profile] fuchsiascreams 2012-12-07 06:00 am (UTC)(link)
Part of the problem with SJWs is that if you say something even mildly offensive even once (like calling someone a bitch) or even ASSOCIATE with somebody who they dislike, they will hunt you down to the ends of the fucking Earth in order to insult you and attempt to run you off the Internet.

Example: I once had a friend who was Tumblr friends with a guy that a lot of SJWs apparently hated, and she got so much hate mail from them that she had to make a new Tumblr account.