[ SECRET POST #2164 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2164 ⌋

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Can anyone explain what this is supposed to mean? i've read it so many times.

[(Anonymous)]

"It represents reining in government, putting back the power and the responsibility in the individual, not in the state, not in government. Again, that gets us towards socialism. What goes beyond socialism, Sean, is communism."

Re: Can anyone explain what this is supposed to mean? i've read it so many times.

[(Anonymous)]

"It represents reining in government, putting back the power and the responsibility in the individual, [which is good] not in the state, not in government [which is bad]. Again, [increasing the power of the state] gets us towards socialism. What goes beyond socialism, Sean, is communism [which is the direction in which we are headed if we don't limit the power of the government]."

I think.

I mean, it's pretty dumb.

Re: Can anyone explain what this is supposed to mean? i've read it so many times.

[making_excuses]

It's about how you have to put the power and responsibility back to the individual and away from the state. And if you don't you end up socialist and if you end up being a socialist, communist is the next step.

Re: Can anyone explain what this is supposed to mean? i've read it so many times.

[(Anonymous)]

This.

Re: Can anyone explain what this is supposed to mean? i've read it so many times.

[(Anonymous)]

um what

i thought the progression was communism ---> socialism

where is this from?

Re: Can anyone explain what this is supposed to mean? i've read it so many times.

[making_excuses]

I just tried to get the meaning out of the statement, when I googled it Sara Palin said it at some point.

But now I am curious why would it go comunism -> socialism?

Most of Europe is socialists, but we aren't all old communist states.

Re: Can anyone explain what this is supposed to mean? i've read it so many times.

[dethtoll]

That's actually part of the whole point of communist states, which have never achieved true communism.

Marx proposed a 3-stage system. The first part is revolution -- overthrowing the old imperialist masters. The second part is a socialist state, where everything is distributed fairly and everyone owns everything, and it's all overseen by a ruling council representing the proletariat. Finally as society and technology advanced, the rulers would step down and the result is communism, a classless, stateless society.

As you might imagine, most 'communist' states had trouble with the whole 'stepping down' part.