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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-05 05:21 pm

[ SECRET POST #2164 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2164 ⌋

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making_excuses: (Default)

Re: Can anyone explain what this is supposed to mean? i've read it so many times.

[personal profile] making_excuses 2012-12-06 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
It's about how you have to put the power and responsibility back to the individual and away from the state. And if you don't you end up socialist and if you end up being a socialist, communist is the next step.

Re: Can anyone explain what this is supposed to mean? i've read it so many times.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-06 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
This.

Re: Can anyone explain what this is supposed to mean? i've read it so many times.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-06 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
um what

i thought the progression was communism ---> socialism

where is this from?
making_excuses: (Default)

Re: Can anyone explain what this is supposed to mean? i've read it so many times.

[personal profile] making_excuses 2012-12-06 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
I just tried to get the meaning out of the statement, when I googled it Sara Palin said it at some point.

But now I am curious why would it go comunism -> socialism?

Most of Europe is socialists, but we aren't all old communist states.
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Re: Can anyone explain what this is supposed to mean? i've read it so many times.

[personal profile] dethtoll 2012-12-06 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
That's actually part of the whole point of communist states, which have never achieved true communism.

Marx proposed a 3-stage system. The first part is revolution -- overthrowing the old imperialist masters. The second part is a socialist state, where everything is distributed fairly and everyone owns everything, and it's all overseen by a ruling council representing the proletariat. Finally as society and technology advanced, the rulers would step down and the result is communism, a classless, stateless society.

As you might imagine, most 'communist' states had trouble with the whole 'stepping down' part.