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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-05 05:21 pm

[ SECRET POST #2164 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2164 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-12-06 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
If I had a friend who was hanging out with racist extremists who called me slurs at school and gave me death-glares all the time, I'd tell them to chose between my friendship and the friendship with their racist friends. Then I'd end the friendship.

The James thing still bugs me though. A teenager who bullied other kids just for the lolz, and regularly, would have to go through major changes for me to consider even being friends with them, let alone hooking up with them. The fact that they started going out in 7th year rubs me the wrong way, that's not long enough for James to completely turn around in my opinion. I think he and Lily needed space, and should have hooked up after school when they'd both done some growing up, maybe while fighting in the war. That would have made more sense to me. As it stands, Lily did the right thing in ending her friendship with Sev, but the wrong thing in going out with a bully who all of the sudden changed in the course of a year or so.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-07 06:06 pm (UTC)(link)
James didn't need to "completely turn around". It never said anywhere that he bullied kids all the time. The books said he hexed people for fun, which ALL the students do. Like, even Harry does this! They're all known for it. I mean, Levicorpus was the fad that year, everyone was using it on each other. I mean, James and Sirius were compared to Fred and George by the profs. If the profs were fond enough of them, I highly doubt they were the bullies fandom makes them out to be. Not to mention they wouldn't be well-liked and admired, like the text says they were time and time again.

James and Snape specifically had a rivalry. The bullying went both ways. Even Lily herself points this out: "Why are you so obsessed with them anyways?" (Lily was smart and kind, she would NOT say this if James was constantly bullying Snape mercilessly.) And Snape was trying to show her that they weren't as good as everyone thought they were... which means Lily didn't think that badly of James in the first place. And his only real argument against him? It was that James snuck around at night with a werewolf. Which didn't fly with Lily.