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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-05 05:21 pm

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(Anonymous) 2012-12-06 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
Perhaps I'm just old but, what is 'the straight world'?

I'm gay and i never really got this whole idea, that I was so completely different from my parents, or my straight friends.

Perhaps I've just been lucky in my like I dunno. Is this a new thing?

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[personal profile] maverickz3r0 2012-12-06 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
The world where people don't get kicked around for liking the same sex, basically.

Some people phrase it as 'straight passing privilege' which explains it and the mindset behind it a little better. That's another reason for the hatred of anyone who's 'straight gay' by some people--if we can pass for straight, they have the right to treat us as they would straight people. Bi people get it even worse because they can 'pass' more than superficially.

(This is ignoring the fact that most straight people who hate on queers have really shitty gaydar anyway, mind. None of the queer people I know read me as anything other than gay; it's only straight people who go 'oh, sorry, I didn't know.')

(Anonymous) 2012-12-06 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
I guess then I'm a 'straight gay', but lord help me I'd never hate on another gay. We all need each other, and our friends and allies.

I wish your friend the best I do, I hope someday all this horribleness goes away adn we can all live in peace and love.
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[personal profile] maverickz3r0 2012-12-06 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
So am I. I basically agree with everything you say here. And we do get kicked around enough without picking on each other.

Love and peace might as well be one of my mottos, and I do wish the whole world shared it.

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(Anonymous) 2012-12-06 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh sorry if the above post came off as bit too terse. It sounds like your friend has it rough, I wish him the best.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-06 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
Anon with the bi boyfriend

If you're old, I might be too.

I think it really depends on the person and place where you live, and it's sort of a vibe you get. So it's hard to explain but I'll try.

I suppose to us personally "the straight world" is work environment, our extended families, etc. Like, places where you come as a couple, and there are other straight couples, and there's this "family event vibe". That's obviously not to say that gay people don't have families - it's very hard to describe what the difference is, but it's very coded for lack of a better word. Often gender roles are quit rigid, and you get negative comments for any interests you might have outside that thinking. And people sort of assume you're like them without asking. And if you turn out not to be, it gets awkward. This doesn't even have to even be about sexual orientation alone. It's like the collective hivemind of normative people gathering. I'm painting a bit of a caricature here, of course there are nuances - but that's sort of the kind of environment I'm trying to describe.

But I suppose for us it might be different because we have a of of gay/arty/quirky people in our social circle, and the divide is more obvious.