[ SECRET POST #2164 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2164 ⌋

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Comments

[insanenoodlyguy]

You first. What? You can't? Hmmm. It's almost like your expectations of empathy as a human being should be applied more liberally.

And that's the real fucking key. Empathy. Yeah, a middle class wasp male won't have the same problems as you. And there are many situations where he has advantages. More often then not he got to benefit from that.

That doesn't make his problems inherently less then yours. So when "boo hoo, white tears" is used to respond to somebody who's struggling with depression, I stop caring if that person is offended by anything. For all you know their mom has fucking cancer. But you shouldn't wait to find that out to be a decent person. You should be a decent person because that's what we ought to be striving for as a collective race. Empathy doesn't end with your own little group of those like you, or even those who catch the same shit. Pain is not exclusive.

It's not about recognizing somebody who's not an asshole, it's about people looking for assholes in every potential asshole and counter-punching or out and out bulling before the other person ever even had a bad thought.

But I can see why you are frustrated. Most people get mad when your called out on your bullshit. Especially when they say the same things about you thought about people who have given you shit.

[(Anonymous)]

+100

[(Anonymous)]

Noodly, you're really on the ball tonight. :)

+ millions

[stainless]

So when "boo hoo, white tears" is used to respond to somebody who's struggling with depression, I stop caring if that person is offended by anything.

Oh my God, some ACTUAL SENSE.

[(Anonymous)]

...I love you.

[(Anonymous)]

Well in the first place I was more annoyed that the OP was looking for some sign of positive reinforcement from gay people and I've really not changed my stance on that. That's really not someone anyone should feel entitled to. I got angry thinking they were one of those people who always derails discussions about problems some group has created by calling out 'but I'M not like that'. I posted a bit too fast and later I realised that they were more upset by blanket hate statements than by not being recognised as a nice person.

Being bombarded with messages like 'die cis scum' and 'I wish straight people would just die' and feeling frustrated by them is something I can understand and agree with. The people with the issue there are the posters who spew all their hate into all-encompassing insults. I ranted on generalisations when I was still in the line of thinking it was a bit like talking about how certain feminist groups are awful and someone feeling the need to point out THEY don't do x, y, z as a feminist as if they found an insult towards them in something that wasn't really about them in the first place. Feeling insulted because someone dismissed your entire sexuality is different, I accept that.

So I'm not really sure how you got to me apparently feeling like not a single one of OP's problems is real? Of course OP can have problems, I just don't think not receiving some form of approval from the gay community is a problem. Feeling frustrated because you feel like people hate you for what you are before they know you? Yeah that's a problem and I can understand it'd get a person down. Do they really need anyone's approval though? Wanting gay people to recognise that they're alright rather than realising the posters are out of line won't go anywhere but I get what they mean now. Spewing hate statements like that isn't something I can condone and I'm sorry I gave that impression.

[fuchsiascreams]

I don't think they're looking for recognition from gay people, I think they're looking for a place where they can feel okay being straight, white, and cis without being insulted, like those things are somehow bad or wrong.