[ SECRET POST #2164 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2164 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

The problem is, words mean things. If I say, "I hate [X group]," or "[X group] suck," then I am, in fact, talking about ALL MEMBERS of X group. That's why I am careful to say what I mean. I am willing to say, "Republicans are either horrible people or so politically ignorant they have no business in a voting booth," because that is a statement I am comfortable making about every single Republican there is. I am not willing to say, "Men suck," because I don't feel that way about every single man there is, and I don't expect the men I don't mean to magically know that they're the unstated exception. Instead, I'd say, "Men who do [X] suck," or "Misogynists suck." Because that's what I mean.

People with privilege who support the causes of marginalized group don't deserve "special personal recognition," but they do deserve not to have verbal abuse thrown at them when they're not the ones who have done the thing that I'm angry about.

That doesn't mean that allies should derail discussions with "BUT I'M DIFFERENT," but I think it does mean that people should direct their very legitimate anger only at the people who have done things that upset them, rather than including in their vitriol the people who disapprove of those things but bear a demographic resemblance to those people.

[(Anonymous)]

Said it above. I've got it now. What I was meaning was more was when someone says "[X] group is doing [Y] horrible thing" and someone goes out of their way to state that they're not like that. Turning the issue into something about yourself doesn't help the people you're supposed to be helping out in that case. That's what I was finding selfish.

Blanket statements like "die cis scum" though, I can see why people say it but I agree that it's not excusable.

Still side-eying the OP for saying that they'll never do anything to make the gay community give them a thumbs up because clearly they're not going to get it but I'm sorry I gave the impression I was defended the literal hate rants ;;; You pretty much said it all.

[(Anonymous)]

But why assume that they OP 'may' have had ill intent. What if they are a good person, and they are just genuinely frustrated?

I might be a 'straight gay' but I never understood that kinda paranoia-ish that no straight person can be trusted with words, or intent. They don't all want to get us...so many of them are good...and they want to help.