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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-10 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #2169 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2169 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
how do you know that people aren't doing more than this?

and how do you know even talking about it on fandomsecrets doesn't make a difference? I used to believe incredibly sexist and harmful things when I was younger. Watching people discuss it through the internet taught me a lot and motivated me to get involved.
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[personal profile] saku 2012-12-11 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
i'm assuming people would be telling me otherwise if i've responded to them with that sentiment and it has been wrong. few people go beyond the basic online petition because they think they've done their fair share of contributing to change but then most of the time it just stops there. such as it is with a lot of things, not just sexism in the gaming industry.

i'm not saying it doesn't make a difference here, i'm just saying it's not going to make a big splash in the industry. and trust me, that's a given. the gaming industry is brutal. like i said, if you want the creators to hear you out and consider your ideas, don't go through a middleman. go to them.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
You are vastly underestimating the power of the internet.

The industry HAS changed and IS changing BECAUSE people are not shutting up about it in comments, blog posts, e-mails, and everywhere else! More and more creators have direct access to user comments and complaints, and they DO listen. Things like Bioware's response to the outcry at Mass Effect 3's ending or the response to the gross Tomb Raider rape thing.

You're just being condescending at this point. We know what we're doing, and we're not going to stop doing it no matter how pointless you seem to think it is.
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[personal profile] saku 2012-12-11 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
i'm not asking you to stop, i'm just letting you know that the guys at the top of the food chain in the industry aren't going to be swayed on this issue that easily. knowing that there are more effective ways of invoking change, i just find it moot to be whining anonymously on a secrets community, as if that holds up to actually getting actively involved in the issue from a hands-on perspective.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-12-11 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
>and how do you know even talking about it on fandomsecrets doesn't make a difference

http://youtu.be/FopyRHHlt3M