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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-11 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #2170 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2170 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Nikita (CW)]


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03.
[The Pirates! Band of Misfits]


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04.
[Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell]


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[Star Wars Expanded Universe]


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[Buffy the Vampire Slayer / Angel the Series]


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[Avengers/MCU, Steve Rogers and Tony Stark]


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08.
[Go On]


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[Star Trek: Deep Space Nine]


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[Sailor Moon]


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[Persona 4]


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[Kili/Tauriel, The Hobbit]


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[How to Destroy Angels/Mariqueen Maandig]


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[Glee]


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[Les Revenants]


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[The Walking Dead]


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[The Real Adventures of Jonny Quest]


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[Gyakuten Saiban/Ace Attorney]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 060 secrets from Secret Submission Post #310.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-12 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
"No, he doesn't make weapons at all." I will ask you to please explain how is his suit isn't a weapon.

It's a hi-tech prosthesis ;)

As for Steve, he actually does use a gun in The Avengers: the picture in the secret is from the Helicarrier scene, where he's using it to hold off...people...while Tony fixes the thing.

I think the problem in fic is two fold:

1) People don't write a lot of the equivalent of "case-fic", with the team (or even a couple of individuals) going out and Fighting Evil in detail; it's usually just a line or two of "Oh and yeah they fought that thing, then went home to lick their wounds (and each other)". How they did the fighting is kind of glossed over so you can't even be sure if they used a gun or not. And when weapons are directly mentioned, it's usually Clint or Natasha taking someone out, because that's what their function was in The Avengers, so.

2) Most people don't know much about guns. So, they just don't write them in.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2012-12-12 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
It's a hi-tech prosthesis ;)

Is that some sort of newfangled teen lingo for a dildo? (Great. Now I'm picturing the suit as a giant dildo... not what I wanted.)

True. I was just mostly talking about fic where they actually go into battle and the author is making it clear that the team is killing the enemy. Hawkeye is sniping the enemy, Iron Man is blasting them, and so on and so forth and Captain America apparently just bludgeoning the enemy with his shield. It's weird. (Note. When I say enemy it's usually non-sapient or something.)

True... I guess I just don't expect them to go into gun detail.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-12 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
Is that some sort of newfangled teen lingo for a dildo? (Great. Now I'm picturing the suit as a giant dildo... not what I wanted.)

*snort* I've read that fic. But the "high-tech prosthesis" line is actually what Tony calls it in that Senate hearing back in IM2, when he's asked if he considers the suit a weapon.

Yeaaah, I think Captain America also kind of punches people and seems to be the strategist (as per the battle scene of The Avengers), so you can't really fault fic writers for sticking with the formula canon set. On the other hand, thinking about it, did he go up against Loki in Germany with just his shield and hope? Man, that's questionable. I mean it's pretty obvious bullets wouldn't work on Loki (they didn't before), but still, give the man something to work with beyond a glorified boomerang.

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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2012-12-12 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
I... I don't want to know. Yeah but I'd like to imagine he was thinking kinky things when he said it.

True. I think that's what bothers me the most. Not that he uses or doesn't use a gun. I actually don't like guns. It's that he only uses his shield. Don't get me wrong. It's a freaking sweet shield. I just... I expect something more I suppose.
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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2012-12-12 06:28 am (UTC)(link)
Here's the thing - in WWII, Steve was using guns. The first time he went into the battle intentionally and raids a Hydra base, he has the shield in one hand and a gun in the other. And that picture of Tony came from a deleted scene in which the envoy is attacked - his first reaction when he stumbles out of the jeep is to pick up the gun and start shooting in the direction the attack is coming from.

I can see why Tony would no longer use guns - after all, the weapons on his suit are far better than guns and don't run out of ammo - but Steve not getting guns seems...ridiculous. I can see him going up against Loki without a gun since they already know guns don't work on Loki, but if Nat was able to get a gun and Clint the arrows when they decided to run off and deal with Loki and the Chitauri, why the hell couldn't Steve get a gun then?
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2012-12-12 06:50 am (UTC)(link)
Which... is why I'm fine with him using guns. And he does use gun in WW2 and during a small point in the Avengers. I can see Tony using guns if he couldn't get to his suit for some reason... I have no problem with this?

I'm actually wondering why Steve doesn't use guns more in fics.

So I'm not sure why you're arguing with me? Because it seems we agree...
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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2012-12-12 07:55 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not? I'm just agreeing with you and adding more to the point you've already made. We've seen them use guns, so it's really not OOC, and depending on circumstances we should at least see Steve using guns more. (Tony not using guns makes sense).

Also, Tony's suit is much sexier than any ol' gun, so he really doesn't need a gun. While Steve's shield is awesome, it's not sexy, ergo he really needs a gun, STAT. :P
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2012-12-12 08:06 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I'm sorry. Finals must be frying my brain.

Ahaha, yes, I like how your mind works.
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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2012-12-12 08:42 am (UTC)(link)
It's okay. I'm in finals week, too, and I and my friends in RL are constantly apologizing to each other this week for being in crabby moods with each other after low sleep, high stress, and frustrating schools and teachers. It may be that under normal circumstances I would have looked back on what I wrote and thought "wow, that sounds mean" and edited it, and just didn't do the same right now because I've been averaging about four hours of sleep a night for the last several days and am extremely caught up in cowering in fear of all the studying I still have left to do.

*hides under rock*

And come on, you just know Tony made a dildo/codpiece add-on ready and waiting to attach to the suit. :P
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2012-12-12 03:56 pm (UTC)(link)
You didn't sound mean. It's just the internet and I already can't interpret tone well. Plus I'm in a similar sleeping situation.

Here's to us, let us get more sleep when this is over.

And he'd have Jarvis control the suit... unless he'd control... Is the dildo on the inside or outside? Either way, someone somewhere is having fun and Tony is involved.
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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2012-12-12 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Ugh, tone, and the Internet's lack of it. >.< As if trying to figure out what people's tones mean weren't already hard enough, we've got all this on top of it, too? :(

And, after my last final this Friday, I'm going to crawl into bed and not come out until Monday.

Hmm...he'll have one for inside the suit when Tony wants to have fun on his own, and one that attaches to the outside of the suit for when Tony wants to have fun with someone else. :P
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2012-12-13 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
I like your plan. I wish I had a similar plan.

...Yes.

You know I love you for your mind right?
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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2012-12-13 06:00 am (UTC)(link)
My plan has since been altered. On one hand, I have to crawl back out on Sunday due to another test and then social obligations. But the Friday night component will now involve Whiskey, candy, and catching up some old shows I missed. :D

And I'm glad you love me for my mind, because I just friended you both here on DW and on LJ. :) Hopefully this can be one of those "actions speak louder than words" situations because my brain is too doped up on political philosophy and economic theory to be able to come up with anymore more and repeating what you said right back at you. :O
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2012-12-13 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, that sucks. I'm sorry. I had a surprise paper yesterday. Good luck.

It's totally cool. :)