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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-11 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #2170 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2170 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Nikita (CW)]


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03.
[The Pirates! Band of Misfits]


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[Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell]


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[Star Wars Expanded Universe]


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[Buffy the Vampire Slayer / Angel the Series]


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[Avengers/MCU, Steve Rogers and Tony Stark]


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[Go On]


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[Star Trek: Deep Space Nine]


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[Sailor Moon]


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[Persona 4]


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[Kili/Tauriel, The Hobbit]


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[How to Destroy Angels/Mariqueen Maandig]


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[Glee]


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[Les Revenants]


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[The Walking Dead]


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[The Real Adventures of Jonny Quest]


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[Gyakuten Saiban/Ace Attorney]


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[personal profile] manifold 2012-12-12 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I meant "the religion jab" as more of a legitimate comparison. The difference between a religious belief and a subjective personal experience is not a finely drawn one, and ultimately you have to weigh its value on the basis of personal benefit. If a belief harms you or others, then regardless of how many people believe similarly, it's a harmful belief and possibly dangerous to your sanity. If you hold a belief that relatively few others hold, but it is positive and helpful in your day-to-day life, it may actually be supportive to your sanity.

My intended point is that the consequences are what matter, the cost and benefit of the belief, rather than the belief itself. I would not consider it to be crazy if you have a belief I find Very Odd but you are basically functional in your life and happy, anymore than I'd give someone who is extremely destructive to themselves and others a pass because "well at least you aren't a Snapewife". Batshit is as batshit does.

(I'd also like to politely agree to disagree on the whole "but you can will yourself crazy", because, no, I don't really think you can.)

(Anonymous) 2012-12-12 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
If you really do think that people who don't exist are for real talking to you and you have relationships with them, then you are not in any way "basically functional." You are delusional and fucking insane and you need help.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-13 05:05 am (UTC)(link)
Cool story, bro. Lemme ask you a question. Are there any religions you don't believe in? Christianity? Islam? Hinduism? Cause oh my fucking god, if even just ONE of those religions is wrong, that's OVER A BILLION PEOPLE WHO "REALLY DO THINK THAT PEOPLE WHO DON'T EXIST ARE FOR REAL TALKING TO THEM AND THEY HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEM!" OMFG THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE DEFINITION OF CRAZY, WHY HAS NO ONE ADDRESSED THIS WORLD CRISIS YET?!? Quick! We have to build a massive worldwide system of institutions that can handle this enormous billion-plus load of people who are DELUSIONAL AND FUCKING INSANE AND THEY NEED HELP, to borrow your oh so scientific terminology.

You wanna help out, right? You're obviously incredibly concerned about the possibility that someone, somewhere in the world might possibly believe in and think they're talking to a being or person who can't be proven to objectively exist beyond a shadow of a doubt, right? You're really concerned about them getting help, right? Better start coming up with a plan to go about figuring out which gods and various other spiritual and supernatural entities don't exist, and how to start rounding up all the people who believe in them and herding them into these nebulous but obviously very important places where those billions of fucking people who believe in people who fucking don't fucking exist can fucking get some fucking help. (Cause everyone knows that saying "fucking" a lot demonstrates an intimate scientific understanding of psychology, and especially of the bits in the DSM about subcultural norms and how the difference between something being a mental illness and not a mental illness is really considered by actual doctors, in some cases, to boil down to whether it causes a person distress.)

Or actually, since you're so knowledgeable about psychology and what makes a person delusional, maybe you should get to write the DSM-V all by yourself and take out all those silly bits about whether a belief causes an individual person distress, and subcultural norms, and stuff like that. I mean, after all, how can doctors' knowledge possibly compare to yours?

(Anonymous) 2012-12-13 12:18 pm (UTC)(link)
the difference between something being a mental illness and not a mental illness is really considered by actual doctors, in some cases, to boil down to whether it causes a person distress

Aha! So therefore, if someone's experience falls outside the worldview of rustles the jimmies of "distresses" a random internet troll, it MUST be mental illness...or, to use the medical term, Fucking Insanity. Boom, flawless science logics.
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[personal profile] milkymoon 2012-12-14 08:04 am (UTC)(link)
+1. Just because something isn't a 'typical' set of beliefs doesn't mean it's TOTALLY KRAYZEE, etc.