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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-17 07:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #2176 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2176 ⌋

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Notes:

Sorry for late, busy day.

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Re: Non-fandom confessions/unpopular opinions!

(Anonymous) 2012-12-18 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
Pretty much this.

The mainstream feminist community is alienating too many people. Sex-workers, women of color, transgender people and gay people, to name a few. People are splintering off into separate groups now. I know quite a few sex-positives who've joined forces with some MRAs actually, because they shared goals and view points.

Yeah, and also, what if two people are both drunk when they have sex. Are they raping each other or something? I know rad-fems would say that the female is the victim and the man is the perp, even if they were both drunk as fuck. But what if they were lesbians or something?

Re: Non-fandom confessions/unpopular opinions!

(Anonymous) 2012-12-18 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
But what if they were lesbians or something?

The way you phrased this is funny to me.
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Re: Non-fandom confessions/unpopular opinions!

[personal profile] diet_poison 2012-12-18 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
Honest curiosity: how many sex workers really are 100% doing it by choice?

Re: Non-fandom confessions/unpopular opinions!

(Anonymous) 2012-12-18 05:18 am (UTC)(link)
How many people are doing any job 100% by choice?

Re: Non-fandom confessions/unpopular opinions!

(Anonymous) 2012-12-18 05:28 am (UTC)(link)
I doubt you'll be able to find a statistic since a lot of research into the community is done by people outside the community intent on "saving" people, and even if sex workers outline their reasoning for doing said work and why they feel that it's their choice, you'll still get people calling that into question and undermining it. There are people who are forced into it and there are some terrible things that go on, but that is not the entirety of sex work, and it's not doing anyone any favors for people to go in with this mentality that all sex workers are victims.
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Re: Non-fandom confessions/unpopular opinions!

[personal profile] diet_poison 2012-12-18 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
this mentality that all sex workers are victims.

Many are, though.

I'm not saying all are and I never said that, so...
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Re: Non-fandom confessions/unpopular opinions!

[personal profile] therangerking 2012-12-18 10:12 am (UTC)(link)
They aren't sex workers exactly, but something to the linguistic side of exploring that argument is Kira Hall's "Lip Service on the Fantasy Lines". It's talking about phone sex, which is of course much, much safer than prostitution, but the way women can manipulate male expectations and society assumptions is very brilliantly outlined.

/slides out