[ SECRET POST #2176 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2176 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Sorry for late, busy day.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I can relate to this. With the amount of people in fandom that are students complaining about bad grades (but then not going to class or doing work), or being unemployed and living at home (while barely applying for jobs, whether depression is a factor or not), it can feel a little like you don't belong if you actually have a real-person job. Up until recently I was on the national administration team for a massive non-profit, and had an incredibly busy schedule and huge amount of responsibility. Hearing people complain about not having time to write fic while in university or college? Um. I call bullshit.

However, I'm now one of those depressed, miserable, unemployed failures who moved back in with her parents and can't even manage to find a minimum wage job. So. Touche, fandom, I get it now. :-/

[(Anonymous)]

Get what? That it's not just 'people being lazy and hardly applying for jobs' that are in that position? Sorry, but I have a hard time feeling bad for you, when you obviously don't have the empathy see past your own assumptions about the lives of other's.

[Also, just an fyi, there *are* times in uni when you're too busy to really do much fandom related, particularly if you're taking more than the normal course load, and finals are right around the corner.]

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT - that wasn't a plea to feel bad for me. Believe me, I'm feeling bad enough for myself. But really, there are plenty of people who just don't want to take the steps toward independence and live in the real world. I've met them - I've been friends with them. I'm feeling myself how hard it is to pull yourself out of depression, but not everyone gets there the same way.

And boohoo, you don't have time for two weeks to read as much fanfic as you want? I have very little sympathy when class gets in your way; if you want to read fic all day and you find school SO MISERABLE and SO STIFLING and SO HARD, maybe you shouldn't be wasting your money on it. I regret not giving my all in school, because I was spending the time I should've been spending studying reading fic or watching shipper vids or reading spoilers. It doesn't bug me when people choose to do that - it bugs me when they then complain while being held accountable for their poor grades. I was perfectly honest about my work ethic, and how far it was going to get me.

[(Anonymous)]

The only classes that were miserable, stifling, and hard were math classes I had to take as part of my core. Why they require liberal arts majors to take calculus is beyond me. No liberal arts major nor anyone in a field related to liberal arts is going to use calculus.

I also never read fic during college. Really. And if I did, they were one-page or one-chapter ficlets. I don't care if my friends wrote it. I do not read fanfiction.

I love the work I do in my major -- and have had jobs related to it but is a difficult field to get jobs in -- but school seriously sucked any fun out of it when I was completing the major. Being such a difficult field to get a job in has left me unemployed. This is okay.

I still never read fic, though.

[(Anonymous)]

Why they require liberal arts majors to take calculus is beyond me.

Because liberal arts contains a lot of the hard sciences. At my university, the liberal arts school included physics, astronomy, biology, geology, neuroscience, and others.

[(Anonymous)]

Poli Sci, which is a favorite in fandom, requires some serious mathematical chops when you get more serious about it.

[(Anonymous)]

No liberal arts major nor anyone in a field related to liberal arts is going to use calculus.

tbh don't most liberal arts majors end up in a field where they aren't going to use their major at all? =p Anyway historically "liberal arts" referred to having a well-rounded education across all the fields, not taking, e.g. English and only English ad infinitum and maybe the shortest, easiest non-English classes you could manage.

[biohazardgirl]

Just because people find school stifling and hard doesn't mean they dislike their field. I love my field and I'm excited about the research I'm going to be able to do when I'm done, and I enjoy going to class, but spending hundreds of hours memorizing things for Organic Chemistry that I'm never going to use=less fun than participating in fandom.

I write occasionally while I'm in school, but on the whole I don't have loads of time for long things except for on breaks or in the very few weeks I have absolutely nothing going on. I know many people (engineers and pharmacy majors mostly) who have even less free time than me. And it's ok to bemoan the fact that you don't have time for hobbies you enjoy. It doesn't mean you're not an adult just because you're a student. And just because fandom caused you to do poorly in school doesn't mean lots of other people can't handle it.

[(Anonymous)]

Jeebus, ochem. Oh, the memories I have. I feel for you.