[ SECRET POST #2177 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2177 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[mekkio]

I can completely see actresses doing this because, frankly, they want to get and keep a job and if that means faking geekdom, so be it. Because to some, a paycheck is paycheck. Especially since the con circuit pays out well. But the rest of the world?

You say it's ego on behalf of male geeks. Could it also be insecurity? Because they can't wrap their heads around how someone pretty could also like geeky things because deep down they self hate because they believe what they do makes them an outsider in society? So why would someone who is conventionally pretty, therefore, in their eyes, fit better with the mainstream, do something that would make them an outsider too? So, therefore, these pretty girls MUST be faking.

[brightblueink]

Yeah, I think that's also pretty likely.

[lilacsigil]

Yeah, the original "fake geek girl" thing raged at booth babes as well as cosplayers. Booth babes are there as a job: their job requires acting interested in customers and liking whatever they're selling. That's no more "fake" than someone in retail being polite to a customer.

But really it's about putting women down because of those male geeks' own insecurities. If you're not "hot", you're an ugly bitch who shouldn't be there. If you are "hot" you're a fake geek girl who shouldn't be there.

[(Anonymous)]

If you're not "hot", you're an ugly bitch who shouldn't be there. If you are "hot" you're a fake geek girl who shouldn't be there.

This.

[dazzledfirestar]

But really it's about putting women down because of those male geeks' own insecurities. If you're not "hot", you're an ugly bitch who shouldn't be there. If you are "hot" you're a fake geek girl who shouldn't be there.

Exactly. That's exactly what I've seen in (comics) geek culture. Unless you can stand there, quoting every issue number and story arc and entire character histories, gtfo. And if you CAN do that and you're attractive, extra gtfo because you're rubbing it into the insecure geek man-children.

[lilacsigil]

I am a comics geek and can do the issue number quote thing...but since I'm not hot, why would they listen to me? And if I was hot, why would they listen to me? Fortunately I'm a lesbian and don't have to wade through manchild egos to search for possible geeky partners!

[dazzledfirestar]

Honestly, even as someone attracted to men, I wouldn't touch those asshole with a ten foot pole. Obviously all geek guys aren't like this but... no. Just nope. Nothing attractive about being an asshole no matter what you're gender is or is not.

[truxillogical]

In terms of ego, it's not just the male geeks (as the secret shows).

I think a lot of geeks, myself included, grow up in that social dead zone. Maybe you look awkward, probably act awkward, are seen as weird for the attitudes, if not the hobbies, that make you a geek.

And you get this idea, even subconsciously, that to be a Geek, one must Suffer. A football player can't be a Geek--they're a Jock. A pretty girl can't be a geek--she's a Prep. Or maybe just a Pretty Girl. Or--gasp!--Popular. In fact, if she's pretty, she's probably Popular, and we have this kneejerk reaction left over from our school days that says Popular People are the Enemy.

It's pathetic and more or less entirely informed by lousy movies from the 80's and 90's. But it's still there for a lot of people, and usually requires becoming consciously aware of how ridiculous it is to stop thinking that way.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, this, 100%. Movebob did an episode of The Big Picture about the geek suffering/victimhood/persecution complex and how it relates to bullying within geekdom. It came out long before the whole "fake geek girl" thing, but it's definitely relevant to it.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/4969-Words-for-Nerds
And then he responded to the fake geek girls thing by doing a 3-part series on Supergirl that starts with a glorious rant.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/6552-Original-Geek-Girl

[diet_poison]

Thanks for posting these!