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⌈ Secret Post #2177 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Mass shootings and The Mentally Ill

[(Anonymous)]

But the amount of guns owned isn't actually the problem.

Switzerland has high levels of gun ownership, and yet last year, its rate of gun-related homicide was .5 compared to our 3.7. We have cultural issues that go far beyond the availability of guns, and we have no desire to deal with them.

Re: Mass shootings and The Mentally Ill

[(Anonymous)]

But these mass shootings aren't all from mentally ill individuals. Some are doing it for crime, others are doing it for 'revenge'. We, as Americans, have a very violent "me-me-me!" culture. Yes we need better options for the mentally ill, especially for children who are mentally ill, but that doesn't mean that the problem isn't guns. because yes, guns are part of the problem. Why do normal citizens need high sustaining clips? Do you know since the shooting guns sales have gone through the roof? Especially on the gun that man used to murder those innocent children?

This is insane.

[(Anonymous)]

...I don't understand why you're saying that not all shootings are by mentally ill individuals when I did not mention the mentally ill at all.

I said that it's a cultural issue, and that altering gun laws will therefore not solve the underlying problem. I don't think we actually disagree.

Re: Mass shootings and The Mentally Ill

[(Anonymous)]

It's important to consider what kinds of guns make up gun ownership in Switzerland, as well as why Swiss citizens own those guns. From my very quick check-up on Swiss gun laws, gun ownership is mandated by Switzerland's "people's militia," suggesting that gun ownership is tied to conceptions of national defense and social responsibility. The Swiss government mandates and directly sponsors gun training.

How does that compare to the "gun culture" of the U.S.?

Re: Mass shootings and The Mentally Ill

[(Anonymous)]

SA: I'm agreeing with you, by the way!

Re: Mass shootings and The Mentally Ill

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

That's actually the crux of my point. The culture and the social attitudes regarding guns are very different there, and so the proliferation of guns does not correspond to homicide rates in the same way that it seems to in the US.

We can't solve the problem without digging to its roots. The fact is this: we elevate violence, and we need to stop doing that before we can effect any meaningful change.