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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-18 06:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #2177 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2177 ⌋

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Re: OP all-purpose response (Re: Mass shootings and The Mentally Ill)

(Anonymous) 2012-12-19 05:28 am (UTC)(link)
This sounds like the No True Scotsman fallacy to me. If no one worth taking seriously would say such things about people with mental illness, then you can discount the fact that a lot of people are saying it, because they're definitionally not worth taking seriously. And that ignores the fact that whether they're extremists or not, they're there, and they're having an impact on our culture's hostility to people with mental illness.

Re: OP all-purpose response (Re: Mass shootings and The Mentally Ill)

(Anonymous) 2012-12-19 05:35 am (UTC)(link)
I apologize for any lack of clarity. What I meant to say was that they're not taking seriously because the two groups that OP found these kinds of attitudes from were news site commenters and people from paranoid, right-wing, extremist gun owner's sites with names like Legal Insurrection - which, seriously, that should give you an idea what kind of people and what ideology we're dealing with here - and those are two groups that we should, in general, regard as not worth taking seriously, and which a reasonable person should expect to be saying ridiculous, absurd things. And so we shouldn't be surprised that they have ridiculous, wrong opinions on this subject, and we should be prepared in advance to not take their ridiculous, wrong opinions as indicative of the general feeling of the country.

It's true that they have an impact on our culture. I don't think - in general, not on this issue - that it's a hugely substantial impact. If I did think that, I would be making plans to leave the country.