[ SECRET POST #2177 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2177 ⌋

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Comments

Re: OP all-purpose response (Re: Mass shootings and The Mentally Ill)

[(Anonymous)]

Well, yes, internet commenters and people on blogs with names like "legalinsurrection" believe ridiculous things. Those people are extremists, even if they can vote. Seriously, didn't you ever hear that the cardinal rule of the Internet is "never read comments on a news site"? The important point is that the discourse on why mental health matters is not made up entirely of these people - they're the froth on the wave. And people are able to make the crucial distinction between mentally ill people and people who do mass shootings, because one of the important points to be made is that mental health issues are fairly pervasive, and it's your brother, it's your sister, it's your mother, and it calls for compassion. And people who aren't making ridiculous comments on news sites, or posting on far-right paranoiac blogs, can see that.

I mean seriously, if you regarded Internet news site commentators and the right-wing blogosphere as indicative of the views of the United States as a whole, you'd think that the nation wanted to bring back Jim Crow.

Re: OP all-purpose response (Re: Mass shootings and The Mentally Ill)

[(Anonymous)]

This sounds like the No True Scotsman fallacy to me. If no one worth taking seriously would say such things about people with mental illness, then you can discount the fact that a lot of people are saying it, because they're definitionally not worth taking seriously. And that ignores the fact that whether they're extremists or not, they're there, and they're having an impact on our culture's hostility to people with mental illness.

Re: OP all-purpose response (Re: Mass shootings and The Mentally Ill)

[(Anonymous)]

I apologize for any lack of clarity. What I meant to say was that they're not taking seriously because the two groups that OP found these kinds of attitudes from were news site commenters and people from paranoid, right-wing, extremist gun owner's sites with names like Legal Insurrection - which, seriously, that should give you an idea what kind of people and what ideology we're dealing with here - and those are two groups that we should, in general, regard as not worth taking seriously, and which a reasonable person should expect to be saying ridiculous, absurd things. And so we shouldn't be surprised that they have ridiculous, wrong opinions on this subject, and we should be prepared in advance to not take their ridiculous, wrong opinions as indicative of the general feeling of the country.

It's true that they have an impact on our culture. I don't think - in general, not on this issue - that it's a hugely substantial impact. If I did think that, I would be making plans to leave the country.

Re: OP all-purpose response (Re: Mass shootings and The Mentally Ill)

[(Anonymous)]

And people are able to make the crucial distinction between mentally ill people and people who do mass shootings, because one of the important points to be made is that mental health issues are fairly pervasive, and it's your brother, it's your sister, it's your mother, and it calls for compassion. And people who aren't making ridiculous comments on news sites, or posting on far-right paranoiac blogs, can see that.

Okay well on a similar vein how many people have been keeping gay marriage illegal because they think "every gay man is a pedophile" or that it will lead to people marrying their dogs? I've heard both those arguments over and over and over and over and they're both ridiculous but there's apparently enough people who believe these ridiculous ideas that gay marriage is still illegal in most places.

Frankly, I don't trust that the "people who aren't making ridiculous comments on news sites" are any better than the ones who Are making ridiculous comments, because it's a mob mentality. Mentally ill people are a scapegoat right now, something to point fingers at so they feel better about themselves and have something to blame for a senseless violent act.