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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-20 06:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #2179 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2179 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-12-21 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
'Where Greedo did not shoot first and such'
Not OP but does that titbit actually matter?

(Anonymous) 2012-12-21 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
No. It's a fraction of a second moment that pretty much makes Greedo a really bad shot instead of making Han a cold-blooded killer. And it has no bearing on anything else.
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[personal profile] greenvelvetcake 2012-12-21 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
It's the first time the audience sees Han Solo, it's how we're introduced to his character. It's a not insignificant indication of his personality. So, no, it does have bearing.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-21 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
What do we learn about Han's personality that we don't already learn by seeing his sneaky reach for his gun? To me, seeing that was evidence enough that he was more than prepared and more than willing to take out Greedo if it came to that.
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[personal profile] greenvelvetcake 2012-12-21 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
But less prepared than if he shot first. We get to see he's just the kind of bastard who'd take the first shot and have no remorse for it. If it was so insignificant, why change it in the first place? To make him seem like a better guy for not killing until he was threatened? Han's not a good or honorable guy, to counterpoint Luke.
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[personal profile] otakugal15 2012-12-21 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Fucking this.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-12-21 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
it's not the only part I had problems with. But it serves as the cutoff point... if you get a version before this was edited, you have one of the first versions before edits changed aspects of the story.
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[personal profile] otakugal15 2012-12-21 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually it does. It defines Han as a SMUGGLER. Smugglers are in a shady business. They ask questions first then deliver, but when it comes to their lives? You bet damn well they'll shoot first and THEN ask questions later.

Do we know Han is a good guy? Yes, but not until later. When we first see him, he's in a shady as fuck cantina, smug, and looking for money, then hears someone has a bounty on his head. How the fuck would you react?

B/

(Anonymous) 2012-12-21 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
It matters.

It matters.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-21 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_shot_first
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[personal profile] brightblueink 2012-12-21 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
Even Lucas has said he hates that change--he had to make is so that the movie could keep it's PG rating, since apparently you can't show a character on the good side taking a shot first in a PG movie these days. As others have said, it does change how you see the character, so yeah, it does matter some. Is it worth throwing a fit over? No, but it's still worth being aware of.

(Plus the CG they used to make Han dodge in that scene looks a little funny to me.)
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-12-21 06:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't defend him, first off I've never seen that, but even if so, he's been saying otherwise even this year.

Now he's spouting the bullshit that Greedo ALWAYS was supposed to shoot first and the effects didn't properly show it. He's full of shit no matter how you look at it, your way or mine.
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[personal profile] brightblueink 2012-12-21 07:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh for fuck's sake. He drives me nuts.