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⌈ Secret Post #2180 ⌋

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[Fraiser]

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[Homestuck]

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[Kili/The Hobbit]

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09. [SPOILERS for the Walking Dead]

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10. [SPOILERS for How I Met Your Mother]

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11. [SPOILERS for Rise of the Guardians]

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12. [WARNING for abuse]

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13. [WARNING for rape, noncon]

[American Horror Story Asylum]

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[MLP: FiM]

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15. [WARNING for rape]

[Hallelujah by Leonard Cohen]

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16. [WARNING for suicide]

[Doctor Who]

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18. [WARNING for IRL murder/shootings]

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I agree that we do need to call out this shit. "Love and tolerance" has been warped into "never hold anyone responsible for anything" if anything it should be applied to simple things like "he/she has a different headcanon than me" and not "oh they committed rape? well they're still a fan love and tolerate"

Perhaps we could start a group to call attention to these attitudes and fight them and call out people when we see them being misogynistic and obnoxious. It might be kind of scary to stand up to these people if they're vicious, but if we let them do whatever they want. We can't just sit around and excuse people being asshats. If someone does something awful like Veers did we should let him know what he did was wrong , not make excuses for him and certainly not let him make excuses for himself. Hold people to the rules of common decency.

though I know people are afraid that this could turn into canon police type thing and yeah that would be bad if it got out of control to where people were attacking and doing "callouts" for simple difference oof opinion (and before you scoff- I was in a fandom with 'fandom police'. Yes it got out of control. No it was not fun) The important thing is that we remember why we're doing this in the first place. Not because we want to control everyone but because we don't want people to think we're okay with the awful things that have been done in the past.

We want people in this fandom to know that we're not going to back up shitty disgusting behavior because they're a fellow fan.

I wish I knew where to even start doing something like this.

stop defending rapists and rape apologists, maybe?

And acknowledge the fact that the people who ignore this behavior and let it slide have no fucking right to complain about the precious reputation of a bunch of college-age white men on the internet, like you have been all over this thread?

um not everyone knows all that's going on in every corner of the internet. I only heard about Veers by rants people did way waaaaay afterwards.

This. I just posted this on my Facebook and asked a bunch of bronies to comment, and not a single one of them were even aware that this had happened. And I literally had over a dozen different bronies comment on my Facebook post.

No one is saying that the rapist shouldn't be held responsible for his actions, including hopefully being arrested, and that it isn't disgusting how many people tried to justify or defend his actions by saying "BUT HE'S ONE OF US", or "BUT HE'S STILL PART OF A FANDOM THAT PREACHES TOLERANCE AND ACCEPTANCE! HE CAN'T POSSIBLY BE A BAD GUY!", or "WELL SHE WAS JUST A SLUT ANYWAY!". What diet_poison is saying is that you can't say that all bronies are bad people just because some bronies are bad people. If they knew about it and they didn't do or say anything about it, that's one thing. But if they don't know about it, as most of them probably don't, and you still call them assholes JUST for being part of the fandom/referring to themselves as bronies? Then YOU are the asshole, not them. Because how the fuck are you going to hold them responsible for something that they didn't even know about?

uh, I was talking about the "forming a group" thing specifically

Yes, I can see the potential for corruption in making a "fandom police".

The best I can think of, for now, is to spread information like this through social venues like tumblr, facebook, twitter, etc. Inform your MLP fans friends first, and urge them to spread the word.

I would say that we should e-mail Seth from Equestria Daily, but he probably would want to stay out of this for fear of drama, especially since Hasbro reps and part of the show's crew appear to be very aware of EqD.

It might be worth posting in sites like Ponychan and /mlp/, if anyone has guts of steel and the tact of a savvy politician to brave those places and come out okay.

I know there are many other pony forums, so maybe those too?

I'm truly not active in fandom, and fandom!secrets is pretty much the extent of my fandom interaction, but if I start making an internet presence I probably will start promoting awareness of this and an urging to the fans to report incidents like these in the already established tumblrs (since making one more might be redundant, I think?).

especially since Hasbro reps and part of the show's crew appear to be very aware of EqD.

Isn't that all the more reason to bring it to their attention? I don't go on EqD or know much about them, but they SHOULD be actively renouncing this shit.

Maybe I'll start going there more and see what it's like. It seems like a nice site from what I've done there...it's got good art, stories, and discussions. But I've only dipped my toe in.

ayrt

Oh, I agree that they should, but what I meant is that convincing them to jump straight into what they could very well perceive as bad publicity would be extremely difficult.

I'm not sure of the specifics, but they tend to promote a lot of business from Hasbro (the toys, books, merch, etc.), and they seem to have some sort of thing with WeLoveFine (?), and on top of that I'm pretty sure Equestria Daily is THE My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic website.

If they started having serious talks about incidents like this one, the fallout could be brutal, and I don't know if Seth and the rest of the staff are prepared to handle something like this. Just the "Derpy" incident alone escalated horribly in the comments.

The vocal minority (the ones eager for Yamino's blood, the ones pulling a holier-than-thou face regarding the show, the ones willing to send death threats and so on... the ones that are just a small part of the fandom but who still number in the thousands because of how big the fandom is...) does not like being confronted with the negative sides of the fandom. At all.

The site also has this family friendly face/reputation that they might not be willing to compromise.

I mean, I totally agree with you; EqD is probably the site that reaches the most fans of the show, and so the best tool to educate fans about what is and isn't acceptable behavior, but I can see why they wouldn't be willing to risk face for it.

Also, this is just my own personal opinion, but it seems that they are all too eager to please Hasbro (not a bad position to take by itself), but this means that broadcasting the most unsavory parts of the fandom is something that they wouldn't want to do for fear of being associated with it. Plus the potential drama I mentioned. They might be afraid that Hasbro and other people working on the show won't be so ready to approach them again, losing their good will, so to speak? Right now, when incidents occur, or where there are news to be had, Hasbro reps contact EqD fairly promptly, so I can see why they would panic at the thought of losing this rapport.

TL;DR: I agree with you 100%, but I can see why EqD would rather avoid that fandom-wide confrontation.

If I were the type that knew how to even go about doing this kind of thing (diplomatic level expert or something), I would like to actually discuss this with Seth, to see his opinion on this problem(s) and if he would be willing to address this all on his site.

Hmm...I wonder what Hasbro's response to all this is, or if they have one.

You are sadly right. The fact that it is a significant risk for an organization to call out disgusting behavior is a sad thing about our society.

There is the possibility that they don't know, but yeah, it's hard to imagine how they would address events like this one, if they ever did.

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