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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-22 03:14 pm

[ SECRET POST #2181 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2181 ⌋

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[personal profile] ariakas 2012-12-23 10:34 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, there are certain settings wherein it makes perfect sense, and women would be either token, shoehorned in, or both (e.g. Band of Brothers type shows, American History X, etc.) I'd rather have no women at all than a token, especially if she's just there for the no homo. Some shows are about men. Totally fine, just as some shows/books/games/etc. are about women (albeit fewer, which is a problem). I won't begrudge those things their casting. Even in my own writing, while my casts are usually well-balanced, my modern military story is heavily male-dominated, and my story about lesbian mercenary romances in space is, obviously, female-dominated. Because gender is a theme in those things.

But if it's just a generic adventure or slice of life story, and the cast is overwhelmingly male, for no reason? Yeaaaaahhhhh I might be convinced to drop it on that count alone. Especially if the women are all tokens or stereotypes, or worse, exist only to be rescued. That's a real problem.

And what makes it glaringly obvious that it is, well, a problem, is that it pretty much never happens the other way around. Sure, we have our male gender-themed stories (e.g. most militaria, specially historically, fatherhood, etc.) and female gender-theme stories (e.g. sex work, motherhood, etc.) which are heavily lopsided and for good reason, but then we have a shitton stories that are male-dominated for no reason and no generic stories that are female-dominated, at least that I can think of. If shit was truly balanced and nobody saw gender and was just doing what the felt like, these would certainly exist. Yet, I can pick up a generic fantasy novel about wizards and dragons off the shelf, read "four chosen heroes", and know that said heroes will either be a) all male (old school), b) three dudes and a woman (tokens are progressive right?), or c) two dudes and two women (someone being truly progressive). There's pretty much no chance, if outright no chance, that there will be d) three women and a token man, or e) four women (unless they're princesses or something and it's "about" being women, never generic heroism). In this specific case, it was three dudes and a token woman (the healer, no less!).

Why? Patriarchy, man. It's still a fucking problem.
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