[ SECRET POST #2182 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2182 ⌋

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Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 085 secrets from Secret Submission Post #312.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Comments

Re: Quick Question on Transphobia

[(Anonymous)]

The thing is, these men are presenting as men. By saying that "they're really a girl/have a vagina" they're dismissing the fact that these people are self identified and presenting as men. So yeah, that's where I'd say people would get the transphobia from.

Re: Quick Question on Transphobia

[(Anonymous)]

But are they actually claiming that those men are presenting as women?

Re: Quick Question on Transphobia

[(Anonymous)]

If you're talking about "the guy actually being a girl/having a vagina," they are claiming that they are women and not really men. They are saying they present as men, but are "actually a girl". Which is transphobic.

It's not about presenting as women, it's about presenting as men yet being called a woman (because of a vagina, or whatever else they think is a "real" man).

Re: Quick Question on Transphobia

[(Anonymous)]

However, none of them are claiming to be able to verify the presence of the vagina, they are supposedly inferring its existence from the behavior of the men they are mocking, so I think they're claiming they are presenting as women. --Which could still be taken as transphobic, since it presumes all women have vaginas.

I don't know why I'm arguing about this. The jokes are stupid and narrow-minded whichever way you look at them, and since people are taking them as transphobic they function as transphobic in addition to however else they are offensive. Whatever. I just suspect that essentially transphobic jokes would have a layer of venom and fear missing from anatomical variants old, tired "ha ha that guy acts like a girl" jokes.

Re: Quick Question on Transphobia

[(Anonymous)]

Eh, I think we just read/interpreted it differently. I don't think one is right or wrong really.