[ SECRET POST #2183 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2183 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Sorry for late, overslept.

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 067 secrets from Secret Submission Post #312.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[citrinesunset]

The thing is, most feedback on fanfic is personal in a way that feedback on other art mediums often isn't. People can say whatever they want about a story that's posted. But posting a comment on a fic isn't really like posting a comment on a Youtube video of a Beyonce song. It's more like sending a letter directly to Beyonce with your thoughts.

So no, I'd say that writers do have the right to decide they'd rather not receive certain types of feedback, especially if they post on sites where they can control the comments.

Other people have the right to decide they're being ridiculous, sure. But freedom to discuss a work isn't the same as freedom to give your thoughts directly to the artist and have them accept them.

(I actually like honest feedback and offers of concrit, so I'd never stop people from doing that. But it's something writers do have a right to do.)

[kruger]

if you set up a direct medium with your readers, then you tacitly consent to the fact that they will utilise said medium to communicate their thoughts with you, because you do nothing that contradicts their power to do so

if beyonce puts up an e-mail and says "y'all can use this email to contact me" and people do that, she can't proceed to get her ass on twitter or some shit and write a character-limited rant about how she DOESN'T APPRECIATE PEOPLE CONTACTING HER ON THE E-MAIL

writers can do whatever the fuck they want with the crit they read, but if they themselves set up a network where they know they can receive personal comments from readers and choose not to moderate this strictly, then they can't exactly come on a fandom secret and bitch about READER ENTITLEMENT, because they chose a method that necessitated it

[citrinesunset]

Oh, yeah, if the medium is set up, you can't really control what people do with it. But you're still the one who gets to set the boundaries, and there's no law that you even have to have commenting enabled, unless you're posting somewhere that has rules against disabling or deleting comments.

Sure, you might look bad if you're petty or overly-controlling. You might drive people away. But it's still your choice.

[kruger]

yeah if your pressed ass is banning bad comments everywhere because YOUR FEELS!!! then that's the writer's choice as well, and i'd at least understand the consistency in your actions

but i don't think that if they actively choose to post their shit on a site wherein participation of the userbase is allowed, they can't really be justified in complaining when that actually happens

[citrinesunset]

No, I do agree. I think if someone posts their work and allows people to comment, it's pretty silly to expect everyone to only say certain things that you approve of.

But of course, there are exceptions, too. I'd say it's fair to get annoyed by troll comments, flames, or comments that are just bashing the pairing, for example. And I had restrictions on anonymous commenting on my journal for a while because I had spam issues, and I notice a lot of people don't allow anonymous commenting at all.

Which is my point, I guess. I think some people forget that it's up to the writers to decide on these boundaries. And whether it seems reasonable just depends on the circumstances and the person. There's no automatic right to be able to comment on a fic the way you want to, though there is a right to discuss it elsewhere.

[femme_androgyne]

You haven't been reading the comments here if you don't think that authors *can* bitch about "reader entitlement". Whether they look incredibly silly when they do so, on the other hand...

ETA: In case it isn't obvious from my srs!face icon, this is very srs comment.

[kruger]

it is a beautiful icon

[femme_androgyne]

And this is the look on his face when he gives someone his IM, and they proceed to message him. Why would they do that? The Nerve!

[thene]

The thing is, most feedback on fanfic is personal in a way that feedback on other art mediums often isn't. People can say whatever they want about a story that's posted. But posting a comment on a fic isn't really like posting a comment on a Youtube video of a Beyonce song.

Yes, and this is why fandom is awesome. That parity between writer and audience, the way anyone can join and and participate and have a go and start conversations with the writers they love. If you don't want that level of personal interaction, you can turn off comments and hide your email address.