[ SECRET POST #2183 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2183 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Sorry for late, overslept.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I agree so hard with everything you've said here. Especially your second paragraph. Unsolicited concrit can sometimes be good and criticism is many times a good and helpful thing, but my own experience has been that having a good beta (or betas) is more helpful by miles. A lot of that is just because a really good beta or crit community is going to be a lot more thorough than most people can manage to be in a comment, and they tend to have more experience voicing their criticism and explaining things in a way that's more helpful to an author looking to improve. Not that people just leaving comments can't or don't do this, but often times people in that context will just say that something didn't work for them without going so much into why or suggesting alternatives, which isn't always helpful. And like you said, it tends to be more useful to hear these things before you post a fic publicly.

I also think having a really good beta or doing beta work yourself makes you a lot more welcoming to criticism in general, since you get used to the idea that criticism is not an inherently negative thing and that just because someone criticizes your work, it doesn't mean that they hate it.

[citrinesunset]

It seems like whenever I join a fandom, there's a beta list or comm that hasn't been updated in several months and gets no responses. It's disappointing, especially when I'm new and don't really know many people to ask.

I do really like feedback I get in comments to my fics, but it is more limited most of the time.

[(Anonymous)]

I think sometimes people are hesitant to beta for people they don't know. I totally understand it and I think it's partially tied up in fandoms general misconceptions about concrit, but it's not very helpful to someone who needs a beta and doesn't have friends in a particular fandom. I always feel kind of bad asking friends to beta a fic for a fandom they're not in since they're a lot less likely to be interested in the content. And there's always the issue that someone not into the fandom isn't familiar with canon and can't always point out errors where that's concerned. It would be nice if there was a way to keep interest in beta-ing and those communities and what-not, but they always seem to die off eventually. :/