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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-24 09:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #2183 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2183 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Sorry for late, overslept.

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 067 secrets from Secret Submission Post #312.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
velvet_mace: (Default)

[personal profile] velvet_mace 2012-12-25 05:52 am (UTC)(link)
It may sound indulgent to you, but to me it's very, very useful. It tells me if I'm preparing my audience, or if I've gone completely amiss. And sometimes I have gone amiss. The audience is confused, when they shouldn't be, or they are mad when they shouldn't be, then I know I have to go back and do some rewriting and clear things up. If they are hating on a character that I didn't mean to be hated on, then I need to do something to tone that character down and give him some redeemable qualities. If they are thinking the story is going one way and I mean them to think it is going another, or if it's too obvious which way I'm going if I mean to be putting in a twist, I can go back and rewrite parts to get the reaction I want.

I don't tell people to write these comments. They comment or not as they feel, however they feel, but in general, they've been most helpful and honing things.

Generally, I don't find it useful when someone says they just don't like the way I've written something, because, hell, what am I supposed to do with that.

As for the friend I had who couldn't handle criticism. Fuck you. I loved her fic and people made her want to delete it. I don't care if she has a ego like glass, as long as she writes stories I crave reading, she is making my fandom experience so much better.
chardmonster: (Default)

[personal profile] chardmonster 2012-12-25 06:01 am (UTC)(link)
You don't think your friend having an ego like glass is a problem?

That's a terrible way to live. I was a bit like that in high school and it made life miserable. I'm really thankful I had people in my life who didn't just validate the way I was beating myself up and actually helped me get used to being made fun of. They didn't say "oh they're mean, just don't go outside, Chardmonster." They said "they're being mean, here's ways to deal with it."

The fact is, when you step out into the real world, people are going to give you useless criticism. If you care about your friend you're going to help her. Not demand the world turn velvet.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-25 06:14 am (UTC)(link)
Protip: being a dickface just because you can isn't helping anyone.
insanenoodlyguy: (Default)

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-12-25 07:04 am (UTC)(link)
That wasn't said at any point here.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-25 07:08 am (UTC)(link)
On the contrary, it's been said all over this thread.
insanenoodlyguy: (Default)

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-12-25 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Pssst. Secret time buddy.

This whole thread thing? It's not two people having a conversation. When you respond to part of a thread, you need to know what part you are responding to. This is called "reading." it's very helpful.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-25 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Irrelevant comment is completely irrelevant.
chardmonster: (Default)

[personal profile] chardmonster 2012-12-25 08:35 am (UTC)(link)
Show me on the doll where the internet dissed you.

The woman Velvet Mace is talking about has an actual problem. Don't shit this up.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-25 03:21 pm (UTC)(link)
So do you. Your problem is that you're a dickface and you think people should thank you for it.
insanenoodlyguy: (Default)

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-12-25 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you so much for being a dick honey.

My dickgirl fantasties, realized at last! Eat your heart out /d/!

+1

(Anonymous) 2012-12-25 07:12 am (UTC)(link)
I hate to think of what will happen to the friend with a glass ego the first time she gets a boss/supervisor who is super-critical. Because they exist, and everyone has to deal with one at some point in their life. The best thing you can learn for yourself is not to take it personally.

Re: +1

(Anonymous) 2012-12-25 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not the responsibility or privilege of fanfic readers to make writers learn that though. Think about it, the world is in fact harsh enough as it is. Why are you making this particular part of it worse? There's a word for people who are assholes on the pretext of helping others 'toughen up' for the rest of the world - Bully.
insanenoodlyguy: (Default)

Re: +1

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-12-25 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a word for people who whine about how things are and do nothing to change it or themselves in any meaningful way save get themself worked up about it: Pussies.

Re: +1

(Anonymous) 2012-12-26 05:38 am (UTC)(link)
criticism of something you wrote/drew/etc. is not a personal attack. if you're taking it as one, you're way too sensitive and need to take a step back. better someone learns that through something like fanfic than in a real-life situation where it isn't always so easy to take that step back.