[ SECRET POST #2183 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2183 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Sorry for late, overslept.

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 067 secrets from Secret Submission Post #312.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

And is that so bad? Commenting and reccing and sharing your opinions is part of fandom engagement too. What is so wrong with doing it in public? When I say nice things about a fic in public comments or in a rec post, that's also me wanting to make my thoughts and opinions known in public and promote works I care about. And that public conversation is not going to be 100% positive at all times.

Last time I posted any serious crit on AO3 (which was a mixture of positive comments and negative ones), someone else in the fandom actually thanked me a couple of days later because they'd been having the same mixed feelings but hadn't felt up to voicing them. It was essentially a hate fic about one particular character. I'm definitely glad I said something that wasn't all fuzzybunnies about it.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think that sharing those opinions in public is necessarily a bad thing, but I do think that there are people out there who are more willing to accept unsolicited constructive criticism from a stranger when it's put forth in a less public way. There are a good amount of people who do put forth concrit to be helpful, but there are also those people who do it in a very public way more in the hopes that they'll get asspats from other fans than with any intention of actually being helpful to the author. Those people aren't in the majority, but they, along with the people who seem to think that saying that the writer wrote the wrong pairing and similar stupidity and nastiness constitutes concrit, do exist, and I think that some people are understandably wary because of that.

No one is asking people to be constantly "fuzzybunnies" with the comments they leave about fic, but it would be nice if people stopped and considered why some authors (and some fandoms in general) tend to be so gun shy about it. If someone's new to a fandom or doesn't openly say that they welcome concrit, then they might not be as open to someone leaving a comment detailing problems with their fic in a public space; that kind of thing can be embarrassing, even when the commenter has the best of intentions, and this is especially true if someone's pretty new to the whole writing game. Sometimes it takes awhile to gain a bit of perspective and realize that someone offering concrit is not the same as them saying they think you're a terrible writer or they hate your fic, and not all writers in fandom have a lot of experience with putting things out there like that. There's also the fact that some people who comment on a fic with criticism are under the impression that the writer is obligated to follow all their suggestions to the letter, and they can be a bit assholish about if if the author doesn't.

Honestly, it would be extremely usefu if people took the time to learn what actually does and does not constitute constructive criticism, too, but that's another issue. And when I say "people", I mean both authors and readers. I think there would be a lot less wank and angst about the whole issue from both sides if that were the case.

[(Anonymous)]

If they don't want people responding in a public space, they shouldn't post their fic in a public space that allows comments.

Simple as that.