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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-24 09:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #2183 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2183 ⌋

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Notes:

Sorry for late, overslept.

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[personal profile] silverau 2012-12-25 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
The problem with "they" isn't that some people just DECIDED it's gramatically incorrect, but that it can get really awkward.

Like in a sentence with multiple clauses, if you use a name for the first clause and the pronoun "they" for the second clause, you have to conjugate the verbs differently throughout the sentence even though both verbs refer to the same subject.

Like if you say "Anne loves cookies and they eat some every day" the verbs don't match.

English-speakers' brains aren't wired to accept new pronouns, but personally I prefer new pronouns over having to learn new verb conjugations. (Though I guess it depends on what dialect of English you speak.)

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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2012-12-25 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Nobody's ever had trouble with the singular 'you'. (Hell, people have accepted the singular you to the point that they no longer know how to use thee and thou properly.)
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[personal profile] silverau 2012-12-25 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I bet native English speakers had a problem with it back when the language was starting to evolve, seeing as how people like to be complete snobs about these things.

But it's different because "you" is used differently than second-person pronouns and therefore doesn't have the same complications. I wouldn't say "Kamino_neko loves cookies and you eat some every day"; I would just say "You love cookies and you eat some every day." So you don't have to switch verb form in the middle of a sentence. It stuck because it simplified the language; didn't complicate it like using "they" to refer to a specific singular person does.