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[ SECRET POST #2185 ]

⌈ Secret Post #2185 ⌋

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Telling me you're an Aquarius doesn't tell me anything about your personality other than you're the kind of idiot who reads horoscopes.

Hufflepuff is not an identity it's a sorting house at a magical fictional school. Sure it's fun to play but if you're identifying as a Ravenclaw or a Hufflepuff you have bigger problems than someone stereotyping your house.

Exactly. If you are trying to identify yourself in a serious manner as belonging to a wizarding school house from Harry Potter, there's a problem. If you are getting offended by slights towards it, that's an even bigger problem.

At least someone IS Aquarius or Capricorn in an objective way--you were born on a certain day of the year, weren't you? It's cool that everyone gets a little symbol and star sign. I don't have to believe anything about the personality/horoscope shit to like that part.

If you are a dog person, you like dogs. If you are an extrovert, you enjoy the company of other people. These are objective measures of personality.

"I was sorted into Hufflepuff!" might be sort of fun if you don't take it seriously. If you are sitting around going "I'm tired of people using the Gryff status to bash on us unpriv'd Huffs!" you are weird.

How is being an Aquarius or Capricorn any more objective than being a Hufflepuff? The attributes of Aquarius and Capricorn are just as imagined and collectively fictional as Hogwarts House. So is the cultural markers related to dog ownership, there is nothing objective about any of this, especially the label of "extrovert". How "out-going" a person is tends to be entirely situational. At my family gatherings, I'm closed off because I have little in common with most of my family members but I'm very talkative when I'm with peers and many people are the same to varying extents.
"Objective?" Bitch, please.

...Except that's entirely unrelated to extroversion/introversion, as I understand the terms? Everyone has groups of people who they're more or less interested in socializing with than other groups, but some people find the act of socialization energizing while for others, no matter who they're with, it's draining.

Still 'subjective' in that it's all about internal state and is opaque to outside observers in the absence of self-report, but so's a good chunk of psychology.

I actually specifically said "I don't have to believe anything about the personality/horoscope shit to like that part." and narrowed it down to the sign itself. You don't assign astrological signs by personality, you assign them by date of birth. Therefore, you objectively are an Aquarius, Taurus, Scorpio, etc. What a little twit you are.

Reading comprehension? Bitch, please. Tell me more about how desperately you want to be in a fake wizarding club.

As far as being a dog person--you like dogs? Refer to yourself as a dog person? Then you are a dog person. You like people? Are really outgoing? You are an extrovert. If you don't like your family members, and don't talk to them, you're still an extrovert because extrovert doesn't mean "literally likes everyone".

Twit.

You sound like a lovely person, calling people twits over such an utterly unimportant difference of opinion.

I think you missed funyarinpainahat's point, as well as that as the anon above you. If someone out-of-the-blue describes themselves as an Aquarius, it probably means they were not only born at the time to be called that but also that the horoscope matches their personality. "Dog person" doesn't just mean "person who likes dogs" because, as the anon above you pointed out, it has an association with being playful, physically active, friendly, outgoing, extroverted. And even "extrovert" is often used to mean "outgoing and friendly person" instead of just "person who gets energy from socialization." When people choose labels to identify with it usually says more about their personality than the literal definition of the label.

And even with your argument about literal, objective labels, "Hufflepuff" can still be an objective label. RL Hufflepuff = "someone who got sorted into Hufflepuff on Pottermore." Certainly no less meaningless than Zodiac signs.

Uh, "bitch, please" is actually calling someone a bitch, you know? And I'll call anyone a twit who's first called me a bitch.

And I disagree, dog person does not have a meaning beyond "prefers dogs". Some people identify with other behaviors beyond that, but it's not necessarily true.

https://www.google.com/search?source=dict-chrome-ex&defl=en&hl=en&q=extrovert&tbo=1&tbs=dfn:1

This is the definition of extrovert. And, as I said, one can objectively like the company of others in such a way they are an extrovert.

And since Hufflepuff is supposed to mean 'magical hat sorted me into magical school house', no, one can't be a Hufflepuff. I can make a quiz saying whether or not you're personality is 'more' Aquarius or something, but I'd be wrong if you were not born at the right time.

How do you think those dates were assigned to those signs? The "zodiac" most commonly used doesn't match up to the positions of the stars anymore, so the signs really are arbitrary. "Aquarius" doesn't mean much more than "A bunch of crackpots decided that, because the sun transited the constellation of Aquarius on January 25th 1,000 years ago, I was born under a magical sign!"

Just because "Aquarius" more commonly accepted than "Hufflepuff" doesn't mean it's any less strange as a self-descriptor.

There is a technical date for it. I don't care how they were assigned. They are accepted, and there's a precise date for them. You are an Aquarius, or you are not. And I've already expressed the personality part is stupid.

There is no Sorting Hat, you can't become a Hufflepuff.

There are ranges of dates, and there are different zodiacs with different ranges of dates. (And who really does "accept" them nowadays, anyway?)

"Hufflepuff" in this case is just a descriptor of...oh, forget it. Be one with the spirit of Hufflepuff. Believe in the Hufflepuff that exists within you.

I honestly don't see how that makes a difference. So what if there are ranges of dates? Different zodiacs? You belong to all of them, because the zodiac ONLY means 'you were born on this date', and all other definitions wildly vary. Again, you keep trying to make this about the horoscope mumbo jumbo. I'm just talking dates and names.

There are no set dates and names.

What? Is January 8 not a date to you? Is "Capricorn" not a word?

There are no set dates and names.

There are very marked differences between introverts and extroverts, though.

To name the most obvious one: extroverts get energized amongst other people, while introverts need time away from people to recharge.

Those are objective things.

Look no offense but I can see why you aren't the most popular person at family gatherings

How's that?
Everything in human social life is entirely arbitrary and can look equally silly when one decides to put it through an "objective" lens. Fandom is not only a bunch of people who are "into" something as a group, it's a community of people who create and feed off of the feeling of solidarity created by the collective. Fandom does more than give people an escape and allows them to have a good time, in invokes a social identity that is greater than the individual. It's not unlike a group of people who tail gate at foot ball games, and the result of making light or fun of their identity as fans of their team might earn you a punch in the face.

What pretentious twaddle. Obviously I'm big on fandom and recognize its value. Doesn't mean I don't think it's ridiculous when someone thinks they're astrally married to characters or actually think they're a Hufflepuff. Even if we lived inside the Harry Potter universe OP would most likely not be a Hufflepuff. And even if they were Hufflepuff is just a silly school house and would be overreacting when getting defensive over sterotypical jokes.

And even if they were Hufflepuff is just a silly school house and would be overreacting when getting defensive over sterotypical jokes.

Actually, supposing they were literally a Hufflepuff, I can easily see getting offended. The Sorting Hat looks into your head to determine what sort of person you are--an affront on your house is an affront on your character. It's saying YOU'RE stupid or useless, not just the House.

Which is one of the reasons I find the sorting system disturbing.

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